Suikoden: In Depth Analysis: Cut Content

A look at the content that was cut or omitted from the final game.

In the development of any game there will be things that were planned but didn't make it into the final product for various reasons, either it didn't work out as planned, it sounded better in theory than practice, too difficult to program, or they simply run out of time/money etc.

While we can't attest to the reasons why these things were cut or more than guess at the purpose of some of them since only bits and pieces remain on the disc, it still provides an interesting look into some of the things that could have been.

Note: We're using McDohl as a placeholder name in dialogue, it would have been whatever you named the hero if it was acutally used in-game.

Index

Cut Dialogue

Death of Kasumi

Though the Ninjas can't die in the final game, it appears that at some point the possibility of Kasumi dying was at least considered as this unused line by Hanzo when he shows up before the attack on Gregminster shows.

Hanzo

By the way, Commander McDohl, I don't see Kasumi...
I see. Let us say it was the fate of a ninja.

The Banquet

When Varkas and Sydonia join up there's a banquet held to celebrate. In the final game only a couple of characters attend, but it appears there were plans for all mandatory recruits up to this point to attend as they all have lines, as well as Gremio having an alternate one.

Camille

That tall one's cooking is pretty good.
I should put him to work somewhere as repayment of the money I'm owed.

Yam Koo

Big Brother acts without thinking, so I always have to watch out for him.

Giovanni

Phew. I followed my Master here, but I never thought I'd end up living with bandits.

Krin

These silver plates should be worth quite a bit.
Think I'll take one.

Luc

Master McDohl, the men you've recruited are useless.

Juppo

My goodness, eating too much? How pathetic, you fool.

Gremio

Where are you off to, Young Master?
Going to bed already?

Item Related Stuff

Key Items Description

Though the game doesn't use descriptions for Key Items they still wrote them.

Key Item

Suiko Map See map

Astral Conclusions Leknaat's results

Earrings Odessa's earrings

Running Water Root Dwarves' treasure

Fake orders Fake orders to prison

Fire Spear Fire spear

Moonlight grass Medical materials

Mathiu's letter Letter

Binoculars During battle, 2P...

Unused items

Some items that were unused, though the rune crystals appear to be there for programming reasons as the description suggests that they were always meant to be unique runes.

Item

Shrike crystal Kasumi's rune

Falcon crystal Valeria's rune

Flame crystal Bell's rune

Junk Junk

Gameplay Related Things

Five Great Generals?

This piece of dialogue by Mathiu suggests there was something bigger planned for how you used your troops, though in what way is uncertain. Perhaps the war system used was originally more complex or something else entirely.
The placement of the text is around the same place as the text before the assault on Shasarazade which could indicate that it's an end-game thing. Perhaps there was supposed to be a 5-party attack on Shasarazade or even Gregminster? We don't know! Sounds exciting though.

Mathiu

But the core Imperial Army is still in excellent shape.
The time for battle is nearing.
To organize the Liberation Army in the most efficient way,
may I suggest we divide it into five battalions, appointing a general for each.

The five generals can then command each battalion.
Commander McDohl, please appoint the five generals
who will constitute the core of our army.

The Missing Room

A room in Gregminster Palace that only exists in the daylight version of the palace. Though the passage is blocked by guards and can't be reached through any normal means. It's purpose? Your guess is as good as ours.

Beyond this passage...
...lies a two-story room.
But why?

Regional Differences

Crucifixion

In the Japanese version of the game Varkas and Sydonia are crucified as their punishment for banditry, in the English versions they are tied to poles instead.

Japanese version
English version.

Old Book Vol.9

In the Japanese version there is a secret 9th volume in the library that is only accessible by highlighting the 8th volume and pressing all four buttons at once. The book is called "Hirotaka's Development Diary" and is a short diary of the programming of mainly the library function.

Hirotaka's Development Diary

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Hanzo
	By the way, Commander McDohl, I don't see Kasumi... I see. Let us say it was the fate of a ninja.

Camille
	That tall one's cooking is pretty good. I should put him to work somewhere as repayment of the money I'm owed.
Yam Koo
	Big Brother acts without thinking, so I always have to watch out for him.
Giovanni
	Phew. I followed my Master here, but I never thought I'd end up living with bandits.
Krin
	These silver plates should be worth quite a bit. Think I'll take one.
Luc
	Master McDohl, the men you've recruited are useless.
Juppo
	My goodness, eating too much? How pathetic, you fool.
Gremio
	Where are you off to, Young Master? Going to bed already?

Key Item
Suiko Map	See map
Astral Conclusions	Leknaat's results
Earrings	Odessa's earrings
Running Water Root	Dwarves' treasure
Fake orders	Fake orders to prison
Fire Spear	Fire spear
Moonlight grass	Medical materials
Mathiu's letter	Letter
Binoculars	During battle, 2P...

Item
Shrike crystal	Kasumi's rune
Falcon crystal	Valeria's rune
Flame crystal	Bell's rune
Junk	Junk

Mathiu
	But the core Imperial Army is still in excellent shape. The time for battle is nearing. To organize the Liberation Army in the most efficient way, may I suggest we divide it into five battalions, appointing a general for each. The five generals can then command each battalion. Commander McDohl, please appoint the five generals who will constitute the core of our army.