What if Luca surviveved his night ride
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What if Luca surviveved his night ride
What do you think would happen in the game if Luca managed to beat you and escape...
what would be of Jowston?
what would be of Jowston?
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Re: What if Luca surviveved his night ride
His own men would have assassinated him. Thus nothing would have changed.Baron wrote:What do you think would happen in the game if Luca managed to beat you and escape...
what would be of Jowston?
Jowy set him up so he wouldint have to kill Luca himself.
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Re: What if Luca surviveved his night ride
. . .I was gonna say that
but yes, they would have killed him. No one actually liked him if you think about it. They all were relieved when he was killed.
but yes, they would have killed him. No one actually liked him if you think about it. They all were relieved when he was killed.
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Jowly wanted city state to kill him to kinda boost Highlands moral for war and put himself into power.
But he would have did it himself if he had too.
But he would have did it himself if he had too.
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Re: What if Luca surviveved his night ride
i liked luca blightRangerDeon wrote:. . .I was gonna say that
but yes, they would have killed him. No one actually liked him if you think about it. They all were relieved when he was killed.
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Why? He killed woman and children...was completely insane.Baron wrote:i liked luca blightRangerDeon wrote:. . .I was gonna say that
but yes, they would have killed him. No one actually liked him if you think about it. They all were relieved when he was killed.
He was pretty weak too
I gave Zamza a fire sealing rune and he pretty much could beat him alone.
Luca was also fairly stupid...Anyone else could have seen what Jowy was trying to do.
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He was ok. I liked his pure evilness. He was by far one of the most evil antagonists I've ever encountered in a game. And I liked him for that.
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He wasint really pure evil...RangerDeon wrote:He was ok. I liked his pure evilness. He was by far one of the most evil antagonists I've ever encountered in a game. And I liked him for that.
Just pure rage and madness.
His whole personality is revenge based.
Neclord, Windy are better examples of Evil.
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I disagree. Neclord surly is evil, but I have never seen Windy as an evil character. I see her much on the same level as Luc. A character who is searching for a way to do things right and to hell with the consequences. Singleminded yes, but definitely not evil.
As for Luca, that man is evil. Unlike Windy, who desired revenge, Luca simply desired destruction, and death. He killed thousands by himself, and lived for violence. He went as far as to unleash a powerful demon who lived on the devouring of humans and their souls!
Now tell me, what made him not evil?
As for Luca, that man is evil. Unlike Windy, who desired revenge, Luca simply desired destruction, and death. He killed thousands by himself, and lived for violence. He went as far as to unleash a powerful demon who lived on the devouring of humans and their souls!
Now tell me, what made him not evil?
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Vermillion.Twilight wrote:He wasint really pure evil...RangerDeon wrote:He was ok. I liked his pure evilness. He was by far one of the most evil antagonists I've ever encountered in a game. And I liked him for that.
Just pure rage and madness.
His whole personality is revenge based.
Neclord, Windy are better examples of Evil.
Administrating the deaths of a bunch of children, military trainees and blaming it on the opposing side just to have an excuse to break the treaty and start a war is pretty evil. At least it my book it is.
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I like Luca because he is evil,but he should learn how to control his anger and hate,that could made him more powerful and smarter
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Re: What if Luca surviveved his night ride
Luca may be motivated by destruction and death, but it's definitely all pure evil.JanusThePaladin wrote:I disagree. Neclord surly is evil, but I have never seen Windy as an evil character. I see her much on the same level as Luc. A character who is searching for a way to do things right and to hell with the consequences. Singleminded yes, but definitely not evil.
As for Luca, that man is evil. Unlike Windy, who desired revenge, Luca simply desired destruction, and death. He killed thousands by himself, and lived for violence. He went as far as to unleash a powerful demon who lived on the devouring of humans and their souls!
Now tell me, what made him not evil?
As was said, revenge is probably too mild a term to describe his motivation, but that did give him enough reasons to wage war against the City-States. This is based on his relationship with Agares, and the whole reason behind Jillia's birth.
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Re: What if Luca surviveved his night ride
Windy is the most evil character in the series.JanusThePaladin wrote:I disagree. Neclord surly is evil, but I have never seen Windy as an evil character. I see her much on the same level as Luc. A character who is searching for a way to do things right and to hell with the consequences. Singleminded yes, but definitely not evil.
As for Luca, that man is evil. Unlike Windy, who desired revenge, Luca simply desired destruction, and death. He killed thousands by himself, and lived for violence. He went as far as to unleash a powerful demon who lived on the devouring of humans and their souls!
Now tell me, what made him not evil?
Luca has killed hundreds....
Windy has killed hundreds of thousands.
If Neclord and Yuber follow her command for centuries and never once turn on her...she has to be pretty sadistic.
You forget why Luca unleashed the beast rune on Muse...Muse raped and basically killed his mother in his eyes.
Windy will kill anyone, anywhere, anytime for power
Her sister, kids, old men...doesint matter.
Luca has actually shown love (His mother, His country)
Windy has never shown the slightest emotion in her deeds.
Luc and Windy have no comparison...Luc wanted to free the world of fate.
You said Windy is looking to do things "Right" LOL
I seriously laughed at that.
All she wants is absolute power. Her and Neclord are the most evil since they have no goals exept power.
No reasoning or warped justification to guide them...Just power.
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Re: What if Luca surviveved his night ride
Windy's motivation can be seen as revenge as well. Her village was destroyed by Harmonia, wasn't it?
Suikoden villains are usually more than the simple "kill people for the sake of killing people" types. Well, except maybe for Childerich and, to some extent, Yuber.
Suikoden villains are usually more than the simple "kill people for the sake of killing people" types. Well, except maybe for Childerich and, to some extent, Yuber.
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It cant be revengepatapi wrote:Windy's motivation can be seen as revenge as well. Her village was destroyed by Harmonia, wasn't it?
Suikoden villains are usually more than the simple "kill people for the sake of killing people" types. Well, except maybe for Childerich and, to some extent, Yuber.
If she cared at all about her village
She wouldint wanna kill her own sister to get her rune.
She also bascially did the same thing to Ted and the village of the hidden rune.
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