Fathers

Pyro · Post by **Pyro** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:44 pm

yeah you guys havent you ever heard the phrase "good die young" well in the suikoden world its "good dads die horrible painful deaths"explaining why there are no good dads

Mymiridion · Post by **Mymiridion** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:13 pm

I'd like to see Yuber have a son, "Hey son lets go take over the world!", "Sure dad that would be great!", oh what great father son relationships...

Red Killey · Post by **Red Killey** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:15 pm

Meg's father might be another one who is a good father.

Post by **KFCrispy** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:49 pm

Lechium wrote:Jimba was a good dad, to a point.
Humphrey and Sgt. Joe are no blood farthers to Futch and Hugo, but defently are good farther figures.
Same goes for Riou's 'grandfarther'

But yeah bad dads are really common in Sui... hell Billy is a great example lol

oh c'mon, Teo tried to kill his own son because he put the Empire ahead of his family! he's never around so he simply had Gremio mommy Tir. i don't think he gets paid either

, cuz Gremio felt indebted when he was saved by Teo. Teo's final "act of love" was to give Tir 2 more servants!!
Teo never even bothered to talk to Tir about what and why his son was defying the Empire. he was just like "boy, i'ma ride these armored dino-horsees and whup yo ass!"

i don't see how Sgt. Joe was a good father figure for Hugo. he was divorced to his wife and didn't seem to see his kids often. of course at the end of the story/game, he probably realizes that family and love is most important.

fathers letting their children go on their journeys when they are ready are fair. you shouldn't force them to go or not to go, that's what i think.

Blue Sasarai · Post by **Blue Sasarai** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:21 pm

who could be hugos dad? by what lucia says about his, he was strong and brave :>

Argento Breesa · Post by **Argento Breesa** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:15 pm

The Hugo's dad debate thing is really common. there is no official evidence who Hugo's father really is. i really wish i knew though. -.-

Hxc Flavor · Post by **Hxc Flavor** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:18 pm

i think the "good fathers" dying cliche is popular in many other things besides games - like movies and tv. good storylines can grow for them. some common ones are - the dad dies, the son must take care of the family. another one, the father dies and a family member must take revenge on his killer.

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:37 pm

I'm guessing the Hugo father debate revolves around Beecham/Beechum right? I don't believe it by the way.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:40 pm

It can't be Beecham, since Hugo's father must have black hair.

Pyro · Post by **Pyro** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:45 pm

luca blight had black hair,and lucia fought for him in the war....hmmmm

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:46 pm

I wasn't arguing that, lol. I was just saying most people probably say that right?

Pyro · Post by **Pyro** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:52 pm

i said it as a half hearted joke myself

and to pesmergas comment- ha...i wish my dad was like that...[/quote]

Argento Breesa · Post by **Argento Breesa** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 5:52 pm

Pyro wrote:luca blight had black hair,and lucia fought for him in the war....hmmmm

eh...I don't think can be possible. Lucia didn't join the Highland Army until after Luca was dead and Jowy became king.

cutie_bunnie · Post by **cutie_bunnie** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:17 pm

Jowy Atreides wrote:Nope, it can't possibly be Beecham because Hugo's father must have black
hair.

I'm not denying this... but why must he have black hair?

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:22 pm

The blonde part of Hugo's hair comes from his mother, and the black part of his hair comes from his father.