[Discussion] IczR1's Suikoden 2 Character Rankings

IczR1 · Post by **IczR1** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:19 am

[UPDATE]

changes:

- attack range column added into the table
- Mazus: calculated new overall rating (based on magic abilities), moved from C- to B-
- Bob: calculated new overall rating (based on stat growth in werewolf form), moved from B- to B
- Bolgan: calculated new overall rating (based on potential damage done with unites), moved from D+ to C-

Rai-Jin · Post by **Rai-Jin** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:36 pm

this is a very interesting topic..i wish we had this for all suiko games

oh i wanted to ask are there any optional bosses to do in sukoden 2 ? i dotn remember any towards end of the game..thats what i think is the sad thing about suikoden..theres no much bonuses (i want some bonus dungeons etc. like in star ocean so its worth leveling to 99)

Black Knight Yuber · Post by **Black Knight Yuber** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:40 pm

Rai-Jin wrote:oh i wanted to ask are there any optional bosses to do in sukoden 2 ? i dotn remember any towards end of the game..thats what i think is the sad thing about suikoden..theres no much bonuses (i want some bonus dungeons etc. like in star ocean so its worth leveling to 99)

You mean like battles that can be avoided instead of fightingÂ¿ or you referring to something else

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:17 pm

The bosses aren't very difficult.

Rai-Jin · Post by **Rai-Jin** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:53 pm

yeah thats what i mean they shoul dadd bonus stuff..would make it more interesting. but its also ok as it is.

i mean in 3 and 4 we have those bosses that always come back but i mean..come on.

Kasumi · Post by **Kasumi** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:29 pm

I'm glad my beloved Rina is so well ranked ! I'm surprized about Oulan, thought...

RVallant · Post by **RVallant** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:13 pm

hm the link doesn't work for me anymore =(

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:19 pm

The link works just fine.

RVallant · Post by **RVallant** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:33 am

That's weird because the old link works but the new one doesn't. It comes up as "cannot find server" O.o

*wonders what I'm doing wrong*

IczR1 · Post by **IczR1** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:18 pm

hm the link doesn't work for me anymore =(

That's strange :/ try this then: [outdated]

Weilong Jin · Post by **Weilong Jin** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:31 pm

This is a really good ranking that you've done. Alot of indepth work must have gone into it. I think there are some characters that while being average in stats, will be favourites of alot of people. Shiro for example, because you get him so early and he is a machine at that level but his other stats aren't that good later. My brother always uses Shiro, but as the same token i always use Bob so i guess everyone will have characters that they think are great because the put a lot of work into them.

darkness knight · Post by **darkness knight** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:11 pm

How can the cook be better than Goerge prime? can anyone explain me that? i dont think no one goes into de the final battle with a cook fighting on it.....O_O

Mintalia · Post by **Mintalia** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:31 pm

How can the cook be better than Goerge prime?

http://www.suikosource.com/games/gs2/in ... eslots.php

That'll explain it.

aydas_arrow · Post by **aydas_arrow** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:11 pm

personally i use kinnison and ayda, they are great back row characters, glad there ranked quite high. also give ayda mother earth,shes so fast she can easily protect the party before the enemy attacks, that should count for something.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:15 pm

A couple of queries on this... you state Exertion's bonuses as 1.0, 1.2, 1.4 in the first three rounds, however I'm pretty sure since its 5 rounds to 2.0 that the growth starts at 1.2 in the first round, not 1.0.

Valeria ( and I always fight for her

) i'm wondering - the gif wont download for me so I'm not sure what you're taking into consideration.

Take a look at my old thread about Valeria's Falcon rune damage:
http://www.suikosource.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=4027

Are you considering in your calculation that she would be using her Falcon rune every round? With my standard Valeria setup ( first round with Exertion ) that instead of calculating 1x-3x damage per round she can actually do 2x-5x damage. This does of course take away her ability to hit multiple enemies which she does like to do often.

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Valeria lvl 92 ( PATK 351, Fury )
Normal hit - 618
Falcon rune - 1204
Falcon Critical - 3060

3060 / 5 = 620, thus proving Valeria's Falcon rune's critical is indeed 5x damage.
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Sorry I won't start pushing Valeria again - just wondering how you set her up.

I really should go back and test Bob in the max damage scenario though...

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[Discussion] IczR1's Suikoden 2 Character Rankings

thats odd