Question about Troy *SPOILERS*

jasonm17 · Post by **jasonm17** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:02 pm

So after watching Troy's fate at the end of Suiko 4, is he confirmed dead? From an artistic and story-telling point I think it would be best to leave him dead. From a fanboy-ish standpoint, I'd love to see him come back and even have him playable in some way, shape, or fashion.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:04 pm

It's not confirmed that he's dead, but (way) more than likely, he's dead.

MatildaWhiteKnightLeader · Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:45 pm

Well unless Troy found a plank to hang on to like in the movie Titanic, he's most likely dead.

If he wanted to live, he would have taken Hero4(Lazlo is it?)'s offer to join instead of stubbornly staying on a sinking ship.

Suikoden 4 didn't do a good job at describing or detailing Troy.

Apparently, he's just a good guy on the "bad" side since he questions Kooluk's plan to take over the island nations and was pissed off when the Fort-El-Eal Rune Cannon was used on Illuya Island. Just like in suikoden 2, where the only real bad guy was Luca Blight and almost everyone else was morally righteous but also fighting against the hero.

Rivera · Post by **Rivera** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:39 am

I doubt Troy would survive hanging on a plank, though. It seems the developers don't like to overuse the same exact method of survival, and considering how many times it seems both Lazlo, and later Snowe were basically left to die at sea and kept coming back, I doubt Troy would be so lucky a third time. Also from the way the Troy went down it seemed it was a matter of both his own pride and the acceptance of his defeat that he die at sea or as he claimed "return" to it. It was too symbolic a revelation seen in other plots in the past - where a soldier grants a "weak" enemy mercy only for said "weak" enemy to return stronger and undo he who showed him mercy (see, Troy's reaction when he realizes Lazlo is the one he let escape from the Kooluk ship).

It's kind of a shame we didn't get to see more character elaboration for him, but for that matter I felt Suikoden IV as a whole was sorely lacking in character development for all but maybe three or four people.

aydas_arrow · Post by **aydas_arrow** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:51 am

I agree suikoden 4 lacks greatly when it comes to character details. but i belive troy was also a tenkai star and there for couldnt join, he had alredy fullfilled his destiny when he did that thing for kooluk before the events of suiko 4 ( been a while since i played so i cant remember what it was)

happyfatball · Post by **happyfatball** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:43 am

well troy is the son of the sea god i believe suikoden 4 said so hey he could still be alive

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:12 am

we dont know anything about troy,other than he was a general for the kooluk empire

now that Rhapsodia is out and we still saw nothing of troy, I believe troy was just a cool character that everyone wishes had more depth and backstory

Wraith · Post by **Wraith** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:42 am

happyfatball wrote:well troy is the son of the sea god i believe suikoden 4 said so hey he could still be alive

He isn't the son of a sea god. They just call him that.

well, technicly he might be but I seriously doubt it.

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:57 am

happyfatball wrote:well troy is the son of the sea god i believe suikoden 4 said so hey he could still be alive

I mistakenly believed they meant an actual Sea God--but I got to thinking--what if it was referring to his father?

Do we know ANYthing about Troy's father? If his father was dubbed "the Sea God" and had this tremendous reputation--then as "The Child of the Sea God," Troy would be expected to live up to that reputation. And it would also expalin why he doesn't take the name as a compliment.

Lemmy Claypool · Post by **Lemmy Claypool** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:52 am

It's just his title he was given due to his naval prowess. Flik isn't really a blue streak of lightning, y'know.

Night · Post by **Night** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:30 pm

Lemmy Claypool wrote:Flik isn't really a blue streak of lightning, y'know.

Well, that's my fanfic completely screwed now

happyfatball · Post by **happyfatball** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:14 pm

Moonbay wrote:
happyfatball wrote:well troy is the son of the sea god i believe suikoden 4 said so hey he could still be alive
I mistakenly believed they meant an actual Sea God--but I got to thinking--what if it was referring to his father?

Do we know ANYthing about Troy's father? If his father was dubbed "the Sea God" and had this tremendous reputation--then as "The Child of the Sea God," Troy would be expected to live up to that reputation. And it would also expalin why he doesn't take the name as a compliment.

i understand what you are saying but people are never dead in suikoden until you see a body in my opinion, anyone remember the ending os suikoden 1?

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:21 am

Lemmy Claypool wrote:It's just his title he was given due to his naval prowess. Flik isn't really a blue streak of lightning, y'know.

Then why not just call him "The Sea God?"

If his father was as good--or even better than Troy--then Troy would be known as "The Child of the Sea God."

And yes--Flik IS a blue streak of lightning...Ever see him run away from Nina?.....

Angelis_Taleria · Post by **Angelis_Taleria** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:23 am

Moonbay, you're becoming one of my favorite posters here <3

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:32 am

Angelis_Taleria wrote:Moonbay, you're becoming one of my favorite posters here <3

im jealous

lol j/k

moonbay, I have to agree with angelis on that..your preety clever,you bring up very good points on troy and I think you countered lemmies statement very well

flik, may have very well gotten his name from all the times he ran away from nina

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