Sans soul-eater

Eao · Post by **Eao** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:23 am

I know its pointless, but has anyone here ever completed Suikoden 1, without using the souleater at all (it uses itself story wise) I did, on my second or third go. It makes the game pretty intersting. if not harder.
(i was planing on doing this with somthing else, but its not the place to discuss)

Post by **KFCrispy** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:21 am

i generally never use the soul eater until i get the 4th level spell. i don't think it would be that much harder considering i now know about the magic combo spells and can easily abuse them in almost any situation, especially with the amt of magic spells you get in this game compared to 2 and 3.

Landis · Post by **Landis** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:36 am

I dunno... I use that third level spell a lot for levelling...

Palegate · Post by **Palegate** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:03 am

I only realized how valuable some of the spells even were my second go through the game.

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:20 pm

I use the Soul Eater a lot. Black Shadow and the Judgement. The soul eater isn't really that great in part 2. That Bright Shield out beat it so yea. Soul eater in part 4 is tight.

Post by **patapi** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:22 pm

Soul Eater losing to half of a true rune? Never. Bright Shield was immersely useful, but only as a support rune at best. While Soul Eater is overall a great rune, some of the BS spell felt unneeded that I usually had to fine a complementing second (or third) rune to Hero 2 in order take advantage of his naturally high MP.

The third spell of Soul Eater was no doubt a nightmare for non-bosses. Training low level units could have never been much easier, for example. If it's a boss, there's always the spectacular final spell to give you the ultimate win.

[spoiler]Even in the capable hands of Ted many years ago (technically), it was still arguably the best magical rune in that game despite the change in its array of spells.[/spoiler]

Anyway, back to the original topic, it's entirely possible to avoid using the rune if you discount story-driven events. I've gone through the first Suikoden without the use of any attack spells, and it's still pretty much the same game.

EDIT: I just realise that this thread is two months old, ack.

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:34 pm

no its just that umm when I used the bright shield, the forgiven sign, on that last boss(the beast rune), it hit up to 2 000. while the judgement attack dmg was lower. I'm talkin bout the bosses, not the little monsters.

Toon Maha Vailo · Post by **Toon Maha Vailo** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:16 am

I used the third level spell for quick and easy levelling as well. Personally I feel like it would be fun to go back to this game again and not use it for the challenge. Secondly, I preferred the Bright Shield Rune. Battle Oath was a nasty, nasty spell if it made Shiro or Victor berserk. That's what I use it for.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:46 pm

we are on the Suikoden 1 board here remember

( besides in GS2 Tir's Judgement does 2200 damage last I saw. )

Truewindrune · Post by **Truewindrune** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:01 am

Huh??that's weird.... i'm using BSR Lvl 4 to beast rune but it just do a little damage (only about 300 or so), so i'm just use that spell for recovery only.

But when i'm using Soul Eater the damage was awesome! about 2000+![/quote]

Toon Maha Vailo · Post by **Toon Maha Vailo** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:06 am

Stallion wrote:we are on the Suikoden 1 board here remember ( besides in GS2 Tir's Judgement does 2200 damage last I saw. )

Yeah, lol. I was just answering the people above. I think we're comparing, somehow now, the Soul Eater spells to those of the Bright Shield.

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:14 am

Truewindrune wrote:Huh??that's weird.... i'm using BSR Lvl 4 to beast rune but it just do a little damage (only about 300 or so), so i'm just use that spell for recovery only.

But when i'm using Soul Eater the damage was awesome! about 2000+!

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same with me

the only reason I ever used bright shield rune on the beast rune was to recover otherwise soul eaters the only thing that does the job

Kasumi · Post by **Kasumi** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:50 am

Basically, I never use Soul Eater, except if I'm bored with a fighting (especially when I'm walking back to exit a dungeon... these damn Escape talismans almost never work !). So it's not that difficult.

Post by **KFCrispy** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:47 am

er well the explanation behind your "300" dmg in that game vs Beast Rune is because it heals your party for up to ~2000 hit points, and leftover damages enemy. heal your party before using it to make it completely be offensive. if you still don't understand this spell, please make a topic in the Suikoden 2 forums.

but anyway... i rarely used the "instant death" spells because i thought it wasn't 100% successful on regular enemies (is it??).

Kasumi · Post by **Kasumi** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:17 am

No, if you use Deadly fingertips (instant kill of one enemy) or Hell (instant kill of all enemies) it will ALWAYS work, EXCEPT on a boss.