If Konami decided to make another Suikoden title (both main or spin-off), what do you want to see in it? Gameplay mechanics? Mini-games? Easter Eggs?
Here's mine:
Mini-games:
Dating/socializing - Some RPGs have successfully integrated this feature in their games. Thousand Arms and Persona comes to mind. And take note: Konami have the most popular dating sim, Tokimeki Memorial. You'll have to recruit a pimp-looking star member first that will set you up a date.
Music/Dancing - Konami also have Bemani games like DDR or Beatmania. Imagine playing suikoden songs with this type of gameplay? Did not really enjoy Karen's mini-game.
More Gambling games - Can't we have dice, ritapon and card games all in one whole package?
Mechanics:
Full castle customization - Imagine playing The Sims or Sim City or Minecraft. You can change the wall, door, window and roof designs, you can even put some decorations in it just like in the bath.
Return of 3rd person view - Anything that IV did great, it's the camera angle. It's adjustable and you can set up any angles you'd like.
Full Beat em' up Duel - Ditch the traditional rock-paper-scissor duels for a full beat em' up mechanics similar to likes of Tekken and Soul Calibur.
SRPG War battle - I want to return the s2 war system but with more depth.
Easter eggs?
If it's a spin-off, I want a cameo appearance of a character from the main series and vice versa.
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Novel Castle Additions and Features:
Tattoo Parlor - You can create your own design or select one available in game, but you'll be limited to inking up your arm or lower leg area.
Satirical News Article - You'll be able to read the Suikoden version of The Onion once you recruit a Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert-like character. This lampooned version of current events in the Suikoden world would be posted right next to the regular news reporting of a character, like Taylor from SV.
A Risk or Shogi Mini-Game - A strategy board game that will consume dozens of hours of your life.
Dojo- Being able to form parties out of the SoDs and have them fight in order to gain skill points. You would also be able to hold 1v1 and 3v3 battles.
A log chronicling all of the events, including side-quests as way to get you up to speed just in-case you took extended hiatus from the game.
Mechanics:
Seasonal + Day/Night Cycle(6 Days/Week) - Every season last 30 days and each day is associated with an element (which affects is corresponding rune's efficacy) except for a day of the week. There is a variation with the bgm depending on the time of day, and also, the enemy encounters are different based on the time of day.
Stamina Gauge - I felt that the series as a whole was too easy, so by adding this feature it balance the difficulty throughout the game. So every character will have a 100 stamina points but will have different sp recovery rates to add a advantage/disadvantage in using a character. Mostly in Suikodens 1-5, everyone would just spam their most powerful spells, but hopefully this will add some strategy to the game.
Food Items - I was very disappointed in the way it was handled after S2. This will be one of few ways to recover stamina and in addition, every food will have a set amount of hp recovery and a chance to cause some status effect or temporary stat boost.
Stat Stones - Instead of affecting one character, it should affect the entire party and reserves, so that way, players won't be hoarding them and have trouble deciding on which of the 65 or so characters to use it on.
I'll have more ideas later.
Tattoo Parlor - You can create your own design or select one available in game, but you'll be limited to inking up your arm or lower leg area.
Satirical News Article - You'll be able to read the Suikoden version of The Onion once you recruit a Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert-like character. This lampooned version of current events in the Suikoden world would be posted right next to the regular news reporting of a character, like Taylor from SV.
A Risk or Shogi Mini-Game - A strategy board game that will consume dozens of hours of your life.
Dojo- Being able to form parties out of the SoDs and have them fight in order to gain skill points. You would also be able to hold 1v1 and 3v3 battles.
A log chronicling all of the events, including side-quests as way to get you up to speed just in-case you took extended hiatus from the game.
Mechanics:
Seasonal + Day/Night Cycle(6 Days/Week) - Every season last 30 days and each day is associated with an element (which affects is corresponding rune's efficacy) except for a day of the week. There is a variation with the bgm depending on the time of day, and also, the enemy encounters are different based on the time of day.
Stamina Gauge - I felt that the series as a whole was too easy, so by adding this feature it balance the difficulty throughout the game. So every character will have a 100 stamina points but will have different sp recovery rates to add a advantage/disadvantage in using a character. Mostly in Suikodens 1-5, everyone would just spam their most powerful spells, but hopefully this will add some strategy to the game.
Food Items - I was very disappointed in the way it was handled after S2. This will be one of few ways to recover stamina and in addition, every food will have a set amount of hp recovery and a chance to cause some status effect or temporary stat boost.
Stat Stones - Instead of affecting one character, it should affect the entire party and reserves, so that way, players won't be hoarding them and have trouble deciding on which of the 65 or so characters to use it on.
I'll have more ideas later.
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Every other thread in the "Future Suikoden..." section + Review threads in each game's section = longest future Suikoden game wishlist existing.
Most important to me…
- Increased difficulty, because fights would be more interesting strategically if they lasted more than 1 round. NG+ should be even harder.
- New Duel and War Battle systems.
- S1 Tactics Prequel + S2 Tactics Sequel.
Most important to me…
- Increased difficulty, because fights would be more interesting strategically if they lasted more than 1 round. NG+ should be even harder.
- New Duel and War Battle systems.
- S1 Tactics Prequel + S2 Tactics Sequel.
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- Bring back the cook-offs!
- That duel a la Tekken sounds GREAT. i think it should exist as a mini-game as well. Have a Tekken-like mini-game with modes like Arcade,Survival,Time Attack,etc. and win various prizes from them.
- An investigation mini-game. Instead of waiting for 10 mins for the detective to come up with the results.
- S4 games where great. bring them all back (except the coin toss). Also the treasure hunting as well.
- Day time/Night time feature. Like in Pokemon Gold/Silver where different Pokemon appeared during night time...in night-time you'll encounter different enemies,or recruit some characters that are available only in night time.
- How about having the first Flame Champion as the Tenkai,and learn more about his past? And his real name as well?
- That duel a la Tekken sounds GREAT. i think it should exist as a mini-game as well. Have a Tekken-like mini-game with modes like Arcade,Survival,Time Attack,etc. and win various prizes from them.
- An investigation mini-game. Instead of waiting for 10 mins for the detective to come up with the results.
- S4 games where great. bring them all back (except the coin toss). Also the treasure hunting as well.
- Day time/Night time feature. Like in Pokemon Gold/Silver where different Pokemon appeared during night time...in night-time you'll encounter different enemies,or recruit some characters that are available only in night time.
- How about having the first Flame Champion as the Tenkai,and learn more about his past? And his real name as well?
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Succession Wars for S1 (Barbarossa as the protagonist would be so cool) and Higheast Rebellion for S2. It's perfect!Wolkendrache wrote:- S1 Tactics Prequel + S2 Tactics Sequel.
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a Tactics prequel for S5 featuring the early days of Arshtat's reign and the war with Armes wouldn't go amiss either.
OR a real time combat game following the exploits of Georg Prime.
OR a real time combat game following the exploits of Georg Prime.
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Who the heck are the Ebony Moon Knights anyway? Maybe a game with similar battle mechanics as Dark Souls?OR a real time combat game following the exploits of Georg Prime.
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Or Dirge of Cerberus....Roshambeaux wrote:Who the heck are the Ebony Moon Knights anyway? Maybe a game with similar battle mechanics as Dark Souls?OR a real time combat game following the exploits of Georg Prime.
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Harmonia
Flik and Viktor as grumpy old men, (they don't even have to be playable, and could just be army leaders or something, I realize anything post 3 is going to have them in their 40-s to 50s likely)
Pesmerga and Yuber resolution
A Mass Effect Dialogue type system for the main character.
Dating/Friendship mini-game is an excellent new side idea for the game, and could be used to flesh out characters.
Female or Male Tenkai star, players choice. They should statistically be the same, mind you, to avoid the whole image of discrimination possibly arising, but a format where you have a Nanami/Riou duo for the first part of the game (if not the whole game) and you choose which one is the Tenkai is definitely interesting.
Duels: Keep them the same. While a mini-fighting game sounds fun on paper, difficulty can vary wildly due to player reflex/physical limitations that the RPS system doesn't have to take into consideration.
A mini-fighting game MIGHT work as a side game, but shouldn't be part of story progression other than maybe one initial ridiculously easy recruit/subquest.
Suikoden 5's war system has fond memories, in my head at least. I think something similar would work well again
Weird personal suggestion:
2D sprite based digital download title. Cuts down the budget tremendously, sprite graphics can age incredibly well and still be appealing if drawn well, and the old limitations on story/dialogue/roster from system limitations in 1 and 2 wouldn't be as strict so you could really focus on having a solid story/turn based game mechanics.
Flik and Viktor as grumpy old men, (they don't even have to be playable, and could just be army leaders or something, I realize anything post 3 is going to have them in their 40-s to 50s likely)
Pesmerga and Yuber resolution
A Mass Effect Dialogue type system for the main character.
Dating/Friendship mini-game is an excellent new side idea for the game, and could be used to flesh out characters.
Female or Male Tenkai star, players choice. They should statistically be the same, mind you, to avoid the whole image of discrimination possibly arising, but a format where you have a Nanami/Riou duo for the first part of the game (if not the whole game) and you choose which one is the Tenkai is definitely interesting.
Duels: Keep them the same. While a mini-fighting game sounds fun on paper, difficulty can vary wildly due to player reflex/physical limitations that the RPS system doesn't have to take into consideration.
A mini-fighting game MIGHT work as a side game, but shouldn't be part of story progression other than maybe one initial ridiculously easy recruit/subquest.
Suikoden 5's war system has fond memories, in my head at least. I think something similar would work well again
Weird personal suggestion:
2D sprite based digital download title. Cuts down the budget tremendously, sprite graphics can age incredibly well and still be appealing if drawn well, and the old limitations on story/dialogue/roster from system limitations in 1 and 2 wouldn't be as strict so you could really focus on having a solid story/turn based game mechanics.
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A Suikoden game without Viktor and Flik as usable characters would be sh!t. It would be like watching a porn flick where your favorite porn stars show up and don't screw anyone. Besides, plenty of warriors are able to keep fighting in their 40s and 50s.Okami wrote: Flik and Viktor as grumpy old men, (they don't even have to be playable, and could just be army leaders or something, I realize anything post 3 is going to have them in their 40-s to 50s likely)
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Like Georg, right?sticky-runes wrote:A Suikoden game without Viktor and Flik as usable characters would be sh!t. It would be like watching a porn flick where your favorite porn stars show up and don't screw anyone. Besides, plenty of warriors are able to keep fighting in their 40s and 50s.Okami wrote: Flik and Viktor as grumpy old men, (they don't even have to be playable, and could just be army leaders or something, I realize anything post 3 is going to have them in their 40-s to 50s likely)
Add to my wishlist: Valeria as the head of the ennemy army, portrayed as an awesome and brave person dedicated to serve the ennemy's ruler (who is the true villain) but finally doubting she is on the right side and at the end turning to your side as the 108th recruit, unless you fark up her defection and she dies a tragic and dramatic death worthy of her greatness.
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Sasarai10
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BrucePrintscreen wrote:
Like Georg, right?
Add to my wishlist: Valeria as the head of the ennemy army, portrayed as an awesome and brave person dedicated to serve the ennemy's ruler (who is the true villain) but finally doubting she is on the right side and at the end turning to your side as the 108th recruit, unless you fark up her defection and she dies a tragic and dramatic death worthy of her greatness.
I doubt Valeria would be like that,unless if she was under the influence of some Rune like Kwanda and Milich.
sticky-runes wrote: A Suikoden game without Viktor and Flik as usable characters would be sh!t. It would be like watching a porn flick where your favorite porn stars show up and don't screw anyone. Besides, plenty of warriors are able to keep fighting in their 40s and 50s.
I guess they could fight,but they would be weaker at their 50s
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Why? You can be in any nation and Valeria could be the leader of a Toran Republic army division, trying to fight you, but eventually she sees that the evil president Lepant is wrong.I doubt Valeria would be like that,unless if she was under the influence of some Rune like Kwanda and Milich.
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Yes that's what I had in mind. I view Valeria as Kiba in Suikoden II, being loyal to her ruler until she notices that she is on the wrong side and defects to you. The irony of her realising that she actually became the new Kwanda Rosman would provide for excellent storytelling.
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Antimatzist wrote:
Why? You can be in any nation and Valeria could be the leader of a Toran Republic army division, trying to fight you, but eventually she sees that the evil president Lepant is wrong.
Again president Lepant isn't evil.
The only possibility is,if Eilleen dies and Lepant marries some evil sorceress that resembles Eileen then he would be manipulated by her,and act evil. Just like Barbarosa.