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 Post subject: Is Suikoden Educational?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:57 pm 
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I was thinking about the amount of thought you have to put into suikoden to get all the characters, do the subqeusts and sort out the characters and parties as well as the military units for battles and not to mention all the reading with the dialogue.

Anyway has Suikoden made you any brainier. I mean a noticable kinda brainy, like better at maths or english?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:23 pm 
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Sniper_Zegai wrote:
I was thinking about the amount of thought you have to put into suikoden to get all the characters, do the subqeusts and sort out the characters and parties as well as the military units for battles and not to mention all the reading with the dialogue.

Anyway has Suikoden made you any brainier. I mean a noticable kinda brainy, like better at maths or english?


Yes. At least the first one did. The better lines in that game are as good as anything I've found in the good books I've read. That's what made me fall in love with the series.


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I learned the word entourage first from Suikoden 1. And Suikoden 3 taught me grandiloquence.


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Yes, the Suikoden series is educational.


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I don't see how Suikoden could make you brainier. The mini-games might get your brain to work a little but who gets the time to play with all the fight and killing around. I don't recall playing mini-games in Suikoden V other than spending few minutes with Fuyo. As for English, I learned a lot of vocabulary from the series and there is a lot more to learn. Yet getting to pronounce those new words is an issue, I use answers.com whenever possible to help me with that. When it comes to Math, Suikoden definitely didn't help me at all.


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suikoden never maked u think?

what is good or bad, correct, or right?

ethic, philosophy, tragedy of war? seeking of power, hate, death and love? suikoden didnt teach u only a little of this?

other games didnt have all of this, its a reason to love suikodens, only the hours i spended thinking "why sialeeds..?" or "why jowy?" are a reason to play..

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Not really educational, but I find it to be rather inspirational.

Particularly for the typical layman, like yours truly, who had never have much interest for classical texts and the fantasy genre.


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When some one talks about smart people the first thing that comes to my mind are the members of the Silverberg family. The way I understand the word brainier is for one to think close to those people.
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what is good or bad, correct, or right?

ethic, philosophy, tragedy of war? seeking of power, hate, death and love? suikoden didnt teach you only a little of this?

The real world is more than enough for me. In the middle east you get to see those things live.

Darn, I wish I had the proper English skills to express my feelings :x <-- you see, I'm lacking in this area and Suikoden didn't help me with it.


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Wow, Im really impressed. To tell you the thruth I thought people would hate this subject. Anyway back to topic. Konami in general helped me. I found it easier to do maths when I thought about it as a suikoden battle. I mean in high school I would have litterally had a giant exscalmation mark over my head if someone asked me to multiply 1.5 but its no biggy now. As for the real. Metal Gear Solid taught me alot about the real dangers and futility of nuclear weapons and the role they play in the world. Im not biulding a bomb shelter anytime soon but its changed the way I think about the seriousness of nuclear weapons.

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Darn, I wish I had the proper English skills to express my feelings :x <-- you see, I'm lacking in this area and Suikoden didn't help me with it.


Personally you seem to be doing quite well with your English.

I wouldn't say that Suikoden has made me any smarter, that accolade goes to Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training. I'm not quite sure how the series would make anyone smarter.


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i don't know about becoming brainer or smaarter but any game that makes you think is good , suikoden games maybe educational in someways like it has philosophies and qoutes that are interesting which makes you think about or use it in real life , some people may learn how to change their life style like euram did in suikoden V , you may say it's just a game , but many players become attached to the game once they start it . besides the names in suikoden comes from many culture and many famous people if anyone searched them up , he will learn a lot .

and it has nothing to do with english when it comes to express your feeling or learn , it's a matter of how much you determined you are


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There's no denying that the translators' language efficiency is above average, but the translations itself suck, as do most games.


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modi wrote:
besides the names in suikoden comes from many culture and many famous people if anyone searched them up , he will learn a lot .

I totally agree with you hear.

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and it has nothing to do with english when it comes to express your feeling or learn , it's a matter of how much you determined you are


Being determined is crucial however without proper skills and enough knowledge you wouldn't be able to communicate your thoughts flawlessly with other people speaking a foreign language. Now if you lack proper communication skills in the first place you would run out of luck. Another factor here is cultural mismatch, what sound convenient for people of one nation might sound weird for people living in the same era but in a neighbor country having a different culture.


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many players become attached to the game once they start it .


Its strange you should mention that. I have introduced 4 people to Suikoden. And all of them became absoltutly fascinated by it. In fact the first time I played Suikoden 2 was at a freinds house. He was so into suikoden 1 he had found and bought suikoden 2 and started playing it before he had even completed No 1. I did'nt even know there was a suikoden 2 at that point.

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Being determined is crucial however without proper skills and enough knowledge you wouldn't be able to communicate your thoughts flawlessly with other people speaking a foreign language.


don't you think that determination is what will bring you knowledge and skills ? ( i apologize for being out of topic everyone )


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