You're the first person, beyond myself, who I have ever heard refer to the Bible as Myth. Just because it seems like many around you see it as myth, that doesn't mean the majority do. In my opinion, alot of the Suikoden world is taken from ours, then distorted in a specific way. Then again, I could be reading into it to much. Regardless, you can't only go off the opinions of some specific people, you have to listen to as many as possible, and use very good, competent references before you start arguing a point. Unless you're expressing it as theory, which you are clearly not.
LOL. More Bible stuff, huh? First off, I didn't say the whole Bible was a myth. I specifically gave reference to the Old Testament of the Bible being referenced to as a myth. Also, I wouldn't give reference to 'people around me'. I stated that many prominent theologians refer to the Old Testament as a story containing myth. I could care less about a majority as I'm not trying to give an opinion poll or anything like that. I already stated that anyone can believe what they want to believe, but the fact is that many of the stories in the Old Testament of the Bible contain stories that can be seen as myth which try to explain a phenomena of some kind. I'm sure you read it and you would know the exact stories I'm referring to.
I'm not 'going off' of any opinion. I'm stating a view or perspective that has been widely held by many. Whether you want to accept it as reality or not is up to you. People can believe whatever they want and that is cool and copastetic to me. Do what you do, but don't tell me I have
to listen to as many 'good' opinions and use very good competent references. You could not possibly know how many opinions or references I have received or listened to.
But, let me ask you a few questions. Where are your very good and competent references? What is the source of your argument? To what do you base your premise and conclusion? Where is the evidence supporting your position? You tell me not to go off on opinions of specific people, but you are in fact basing your argument on opinions and ideals of specific people. Your views and ideals come from others and you can choose what you will consider fact, but you use others ideas to come to a choice. So,am I to just go by what you say? I don't even disagree with you, but I'm stating something contrary to your belief, so should I just assume that you are correct when there is actual evidence behind my claims?
Fact, the only being that could know how the world began would be God and God alone. So, God would be the only good and competent reference not some human being. Hence, the story could have been convoluted and manipulated into the way that individual saw it, correct? There are thousands of creation stories in existence today. Which one should we believe and take as concrete? Hmm, I don't know, but one thing is for sure there is a reason why they are called the creation myths.
So, all that is left is conjecture, opinion and theoritizations and I'm not even suggesting that those theories are true. I'm telling you that it is fact that some believe the stories in the Old Testament of the Bible to be myths and that it is fact that some of those people are priests, reverends, deacons, bishops and other prominent theologians some of them being people I've associated with and many of them not being people I have associated with. So, you can take that any way you want, but remember it's not my opinion at all as I've stated many of times that you can believe whatever you want to believe and in whatever way that suits you best. So before you try to claim what I am 'clearly' not doing please try to understand what I'm actually stating.
I have in no way given my own opinion on the subject. I have stated, 'clearly', that many believe the story to be a myth. I have not stated what I believe the Old Testament's stories to be because it's not important for my argument because people should believe whatever they want to believe. I'm just stating to you that is fact that some people believe the Old Testament stories to be myth and some of those people are prominent theologians. So, you can take that any way you want to it matters to me not. Thus concludes anything else I will mention about the Bible in any way, shape or form because this is not the place to do so.
As for the statement by son_michael, you can take it literal if that suits you, but the fact is that even in the game they call the story a myth. Myths in nature aren't supposed to be taken literally. They are just stories meant to explain an unexplainable event.
You are correct that things aren't supposed to make sense. So, by all means, accept whatever you will, but I won't just accept anything and I won't say that creation story is wrong either. But, the characters in the game just call the story a myth. A myth is not meant to be taken as fact. If you want to believe the Sword became the sky and the Shield became the earth, then do so.
I, for one, will not stop you. But, like I said before, there is a reason why they call the story a myth. And Konami states many times in the game that the so-called creation story is a myth. So, believe what you want, but please don't tell people what they should do. People can believe whatever they choose to believe.
If you want the myth to be how things actually happened, then that is great as I'm positive the creators won't go back and actually show us what really happened so we will never know if it is true or not. So, we will just have to accept the myth as either true or false. Either way suits me fine, but once again, there's a reason why they call it a myth.
And True Runes could be seen as beyond good and evil. They govern particular aspects of the Suikoden World as representatives or symbols of a particular emotion or naturally occuring phenomena. Good and Evil is a moral platitude, the True Runes are beyond morality.