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 Post subject: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:47 pm 
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So I'm curious, items that boosts up your unite attacks like the Sexy Wink or Dog Whistle, do they stack? Like say I give a Dog Whistle to Gabocha, if I give another to Gengen would they double up the attack? I'm just curious because if it does, than I'll add one of those items to each person on the Unite Attack. Otherwise, I'll just get one of every item. Also, what the hell are the Sunglasses for anyway? I have no idea what it means "To Protect Against Gleaming Attacks". Anyone that can help out will be most appreciated. Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:47 am 
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This should be easy to test. Put one dog whistle on, do the unite on a certain enemy, write down the damage. Put another one on, do the unite against the same enemy, write down the damage.

If the damage is similar it doesn't stack.

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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:11 am 
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Sunglasses protect party members of blindness when performing theFlash Attack Unite.

btw there is no Unite Guide for Suikoden II on the website..

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:34 pm 
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The items are unique, so they are not stackable.

This topic covers the mytery about the sunglasses: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9048


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:18 pm 
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yeah unfortunately we didn't put one together, and the ones at gamefaqs have errors :/


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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:31 pm 
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Celes wrote:
The items are unique, so they are not stackable.

Are they really unique? I am not so sure about it, I think I had some items twice. But might also be wrong memory.

@KFC: Maybe we should try and make one together in the forum as accurate as possible?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:25 pm 
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@Antimatzist i am a little busy to work on it but if you create a post and list everything we can review it and work on making a web page out of it :)


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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
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Ok, if I dont forget I will start it next week or so^^

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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:14 am 
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you can't even get another once you acquire the item so they can not be stacked since you may only have one at a time


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:01 am 
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=============================
LIST OF COMBOS:
=============================
LEVEL 2 COMBINATION COMBO
=============================
==========================================================================================
CHARACTERS ATK NAME ATK EFFECTS ATK SCENE
==========================================================================================

1. HERO AND JOWY Buddy ATK Hits all enemies for normal Jowy and Hero circles
damage the all enemies with
a glowing light in the
center of the enemy and
hits all the enemies in
just one strike.



2. HERO & NANAMI Family ATK 2X DMG VS. 1E Nanami Hero and Nanami both
gets unbalanced attacks a single enemy
and strike the enemy
with the same moves.



3. VIKTOR & FLIK Cross ATK 1.5x DMG VS. 1 E Viktor and FLik jumps
knockdown (30%) forward and slash the
enemy by running
slanting through the
enemy.



4. SHIRO AND Loyal Dog 1.5X DMG to 1 E Kinnison attacks with
KINNISON ATK .5X DMG to 1 column bow the commands Shiro
to attack the an enemy
or an enemy in column
and then Shiro howls.



5. HERO AND HOI Copycat ATK 1x DMG VS. 1 E Hero and Hoi attacks
but Hoi misses to hit
the enemy.



6. a. KINNISON AND Bow ATK 0.5 DMG vs. all Es Kinnison and Stallion
STALLION jumps forward and shots
b. AYDA AND the enemies many times
KINNISON using their bow weapons.
c. STALLION AND same will happen with
AYDA Ayda and Kinnison and
also to Stallion and
Ayda.


7. TSAI AND TOMO Dad-Daugther 2 x DMG VS. front row Tsai and Tomo attacks
ATK the enemy in one row
with Sonic boom.


8. a. GENGEN AND Bow wow ATK 1.5X DMG VS. 1 E Gengen jumps on Shiro's
SHIRO back with a fishing rod
b. GABOCHA AND and a bone hanging on it
SHIRO then charges the enemy.
Like Gengen, Gabocha
also unites with Shiro,
with the same attack.



9. ABIZBOAH AND Double Kracken 1x DMG to front row ????????????
RULODI ATK


10. SIGFRIED AND Double Monster 3x DMG VS. 1 E Feather grabs the enemy
FEATHER ATK both unbalanced then drops it and Sigfried
attacks the falling enemy.


11. FLIK & NINA Groupy ATK 2.5x DMG VS. 1 E Nina jumps forward and
Nina unbalaced hits the enemy with a
book and turns round and
round then Flik holds her
the a heart pops out in
in Nani and Flik gets
sweat.


12. YOSHINO AND Husband-Wife 2x DMG VS. 1 E gets Yoshino and Freed Y Jumps
FREED Y ATK Yoshino unbalanced forward and signal each
Other then salute and
then they slash the enemy.


13. GENGEN AND Kobold ATK 1x DMG vs. 1 E ? Gengen slash the enemy
GABOCHA Gabocha unbalanced then Gabocha shots a
sling attack with the
same enemy.

14. a.ABIZBOAH AND Head Up!! 2x DMG to an enemy & ??????????????
VIKI monster unbalanced
b.RULODIA AND
VIKI

15. RIKIMARU AND Manly ATK 2x DMG VS. 1 row Rikimaru and Amada jumps
AMADA forward and then a fast
slash will be executed
together then a light
shines on the enemy then
feathers goes out in the
enemy.

16. VALERIA AND Rival ATK 3x DMG to an enemy and The two of them attacks
ANITA Valeria unbalanced with there falcon rune
to the enemy and get a
huge damage out of them.

17. MIKLOTOV AND Knight ATK 2x DMG VS. 1 E Camus and Miklotov jumps
CAMUS unbalance 30% forward and slashes a
certain enemy.

18. OULAN AND Tackle ATK .75X DMG VS. all Es Oulan and Hanna jumps
HANNA unbalance forward and then exchange
places and tackles the
all enemies with a
lightning on their body
and with a high speed.

19. VINCENT AND Narcissus ATK 0.5 x DMG on all Es They perform the same
SIMONE attack as Hero and Jowy
but this time it has
many falling roses.

20. MEG AND GADGET Trick ATK causes Gadget DMG to Meg gets her computer
all Es and controls Gadget then
Gadget transforms into
a gaint robot and damage
all the enimies.

21. HIX AND Warriors ATK 2x DMG VS. 1 E Hix jump and slash the
TENGAAR Hix takes DMG enemy while tengaar
charges up a fire spell
and throw in into the
enemy including Hix.

22. MONDO AND Ninja ATK 1.5x DMG to 1 E Kasumi teleports and grabs
KASUMI knockdown (30%) the enemy and after she
strikes the enemy on the
ground Mondo slash the
enemy with his claw.

23. WAKABA AND Twin Fighter ATK 3x DMG VS. 1 E Wakaba and L.C. Chan
L.C.CHAN berserk only attacks one enemy in
their incredible martial
arts moves.

24. SHIN AND Swordsman ATK 0.5x DMG VS. all Es Genshu and Shin executes
GENSHU suddendeath 20% a fast slash and then the
screen divieds into two.

25. SID AND CHACO Winger ATK 1.5x DMG vs. 1 E Sid and Chaco flies
poison 30% and charge and stabs the
enemy in a vertical
vilocity of their wings.

============================
LEVEL 3 COMBINATION COMBO
============================
===========================================================================================
CHARACTERS ATK NAME ATK EFFECTS ATK SCENE
===========================================================================================

1. EILIE, RINE, Circus ATK 2 x DMG VS. 1E Bolgan Eilie, Rina, Bolgan
AND BOLGAN gets unbalanced jumps infront of the
enemy and then Bolgan
releases a fire using
using his mouth while
Eilie and Rina tries
to hold him to support
him of his strong atk.

2. FLIK, MIKLOTOV, Pretty Boy ATK 1.5 DMG VS. 1 E Camus and Miklotov jumps
AND CAMUS suddendeath 25% forward and Flik waits
a the back after the two
slash the enemy then Flik
follows.

3. TENGAAR, MEG, Pretty Girl ATK 0.5x DMG to all Es Tengaar, Meg and Millie
AND MILLIE jumps forward and throw
their weapons many
times and damages all
enemies.

4. BADEAUX AND Beastmaster ATK 1.5x DMG VS. 1 E Badeaux jumps at the
THE 2 MONSTERS MAKES berserk back and whips on the
ground then the two
monsters attacks rush
heading to the enemy.

5. BOLGAN, L.C.CHAN, Flash ATK 1.5x DMG to all Es Gentetsu, Bolgan and
AND GANTETSU 0.5x DMG to allies L.C. Chan jumps forward
And let shine their
forehead to damage the
enemies.

6. LO WEN, KOYU, Bandit ATK 1.5x DMG VS. 1 E Koyu and Gijimu attacks
AND GIJIMU knockdown at (30%) with their normal attack
then Lo Wen uses her
chain ball to damage the
enemy.

7. SIERRA, BOLGAN, Servant ATK Drains 4x DMG from an She'll jumps forward
AND BOB enemy, Bob and Bolgan and controls Bob and
damaged, Sierra healed Bolgan to attack the
enemy.

8. FUTCH, LUC, Cutie Boy ATK 1x DMG VS. all Es Sasuke and Futch attacks
AND SASUKE become unfriendly a certain enemy while
Luc charge up energy
then Fires it to all the
enemies and damages
including Sasuke and
Futch.

9. KASUMI, RINA Beauty ATK 0.25x DMG VS. all Es The three beautiful
KAREN AND LORELAI sleep (60%) ladies jumps forward
(ANY OF THE THREE) and combine their powers
to damage and try to put
the enemies to sleep.

===============================
LEVEL 4 COMBINATION COMBO
===============================
===========================================================================================
CHARACTERS ATK NAME ATK EFFECTS ATK SCENE
===========================================================================================

1. KASUMI, LORELAI, True Beauty ATK 0.25 DMG VS. all Es This attack is the same
KAREN AND RINA sleep (70%) as the beauty attack but
this time there are four
beautiful ladies and the
percentage of sleep is
much higher this time.

================================
LEVEL 5 COMBINATION COMBO
================================
===========================================================================================
CHARACTERS ATK NAME ATK EFFECTS ATK SCENE
===========================================================================================

1. MAKUMAKU, 5 Squirrel ATK Takes E far away The five squirrels forms
MIKUMIKU, a [V] formation and let
MUKUMUKU, out some colors and then
MEKUMEKU, AND flies and grabs the
MOKUMOKU enemy and fly away.

There is already a guide on unite attacks by CCajes on gamefaqs and lots of other things

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/198844-suikoden-ii/faqs/8064


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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:06 am 
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yes it was acknowledged that the one(s) on gamefaqs have errors, hence the desire to create one without typos and with as much info as possible (% chance of alternate versions, how the unite items affect it, % chance of instant death from Squirrel Attack, etc).

on a side note, i wonder if the Rival Attack is really 3x dmg from each character or if it's Valeria's critical Falcon + Anita's normal Falcon damage. probably not, but that's what happens in the animation.


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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:04 pm 
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Thank you Gildedtalon for making an accurate Unite list for us and thanks Celes for sending me the link to figure out what the Sunglasses item is good for as well as the other Unite items. This proved quite helpful. Glad to see someone work on a Unite Guide for Suikoden II.


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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:55 am 
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wut? that's not accurate and he didn't make it.


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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
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1. Family Attack has a moderate chance to heal 10% of Nanami's HP, but only Riou's ATK is accounted for in the damage calculation and Nanami doesn't get Unbalanced.

2. 100 Kobold Attack, the upgraded version of the Kobold Attack, is automatically activated when BOTH Gengen and Gabocha are Berserk. It doesn't prevent them from getting Unbalanced so you can equip both of them with *Fury and *Balance so they can spam their 100 Kobold Attack every turn. Gengen has only one rune slot, so you may equip him with *Fury and bring a slow healer with you (e.g. Viki) or with *Balance and pray that Battle Oath or Berserk-inducing foods inflict Berserk on him.

I vote for re-vamping the Unites Guide to make it more readable.

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 Post subject: Re: Rope Item Questions Based On Unite Boost Items
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cool, i never heard about automatically working when they're berserk!


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