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 Post subject: [Guide] Unite item effects
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:27 pm 
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*Unite attacks in this game seem to apply the enemy's PDF against each character involved in the unite. So a 1x dmg unite is expected to do the same total damage as the characters normal attacking separately.*

Any participant of the unite that the item affects can equip the item for it to work.

Leisure Set - increases chance of getting the version of Family Attack where Nanami sits, eats, etc, does not go Unbalanced and recovers HP after the unite

Cup of Promise - increases Manly Attack's chance to Knockdown to 30%; Bandit Attack deals 2x dmg (original is 1.5x dmg)

Dog Whistle - increases odds of performing 100 Kobold Attack (3x dmg to all) instead of the Kobold Attack; chance with Dog Whistle is 25%, original chance is 20%.

Rose Bouquet - not sure of effects on Narcissus Attack (Doesn't this unite have a chance of causing Sleep? If so, it probably increases the chance because it does not increase damage or change the effects)

Secret Writings - Ninja Attack deals 2x dmg (original is 1.5x dmg)

Invincible Smile - Pretty Boy Attack deals 2x dmg (original is 1.5x dmg) and 40% chance of Instant Death (original is 25%).

Sexy Wink - increases chance of Sleep for Beauty Attack and True Beauty Attack. The original chance of Sleep is 70%, increased chance is unknown.
*Beauty Attack and True Beauty Attack both deal 0.25x dmg, not 1x damage described in game

Millet Dumplings - makes all allies (Riou) berserk after performing Beastmaster Attack
*you can use a cheat device to have all monsters... i found that Rulodia can't unite with Feather or Sigfried for this attack :o

Lubricating Oil - Trick Attack deals 1.5x of Gadget's ATK (original is 1x dmg of Gadget's ATK)

Sunglasses - protection from Flash Attack damage; this item is for allies NOT taking part in the unite


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:28 am 
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I think you miss out quite afew more unite item. I remember there are more..

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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:10 am 
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like...???


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:21 am 
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eh......Who does "beauty" and "true beauty" attack

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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:22 am 
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members of True Beauty / Beauty attack: Karen, Kasumi, Lorelai, Rina
the Beauty attack is any 3, while True Beauty is all 4

it's become quite clear that we do need unite guides for Suikoden I and II since the ones at gamefaqs are 1. inconsistent with one another, and 2. inaccurate (which is a given trait of inconsistency...). and 3, the game's unite descriptions are lacking and/or sometimes inaccurate.


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:35 pm 
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The official strategy guide lists all effects of these items in detail.


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:12 pm 
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really? i'm pretty sure the guide says the same thing as the game... "this unite atk UP"

what does it say Rose Bouquet does?


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:02 am 
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i think rose bouquet increases the attack of the unite of simone and vincent(i forgot the name) of the attack by some number

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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:14 am 
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from my tests, it does not increase attack at all for them. same exact damage with and without.


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:40 pm 
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Taken from the official strategy guide:

Leisure Set
Family Attack: Chance of performing a second Family Attack (other version) is 50%

Cup of Promise
Bandits Attack: 2x damage
Manly Attack: Raises chance of Knockdown to 30%

Dog Whistle
Kobold Attack: Chance of performing 100 Kobold Attack is 25%
(otherwise: 20%)

Rose Bouquet
Narcissus Attack: Raises chance of Silence to 30%

Secret Writings
Ninja Attack: 2x damage; Raises chance of Knockdown to 30%

Invincible Smile
Fancy Lad Attack: 2x damage; Raises chance of Instant Death to 40%
(otherwise: 1.5x damage; 25%)

Sexy Wink
Beauty Attack: Raises chance of Sleep
(otherwise: 70%)

Millet Dumplings
Beastmaster Attack: All allies except Badeaux become Berserk
(otherwise: Monsters only)

Lubricating Oil
Raises stregth of Gadget's attacks and magic spells 1.5 times


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:25 pm 
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great, thanks! now combining the information, we can get some accurate information..


CelesDestiny wrote:
Lubricating Oil
Raises stregth of Gadget's attacks and magic spells 1.5 times

lol Gadget's magic...
i know his normal attack does not increase, only his unite damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:04 pm 
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Maybe i am wrong. I am playing the PSP version and there are like 12 to 13 unite item.

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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
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Hey....Whats the "fancy lad" unite attack anyway???Is it "Pretty Boy Attack"...

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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:22 am 
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Fancy Lad Attack = Pretty Boy Attack


gradeAbra, can you list the extra items?


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 Post subject: Re: Unite item effects
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:18 pm 
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I will double check. Maybe i am wrong..

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