[FAQ] The Confusion Behind Nanami *Possible Spoiler*

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Postby KFCrispy » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:00 am

is Nanami's name greyed out if she is still alive but pretending to be dead? i'm actually wondering if a cheat device can remedy the situation.. but the code for recruited/not recruited/dead isn't really the issue to Nanami in that situation.

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Postby Sabrewulf » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:24 pm

Yes her name is grey.
And yes it's possible to get her back without any glitch.
Death or fake death, she's considerd as Death in the character part of the gamesave.

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Postby KFCrispy » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:27 pm

oh what i was wondering was if using the code to make her alive would get the 'complete' ending.. but i doubt it.

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Postby Sabrewulf » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:35 pm

I guess you mean if Leknaat don't unlock forgiver sign, is it possible to get Nanami back with gameshark and have good ending.
It's yes and no.
If you just change her recruitment value from "death" to "recruited" then it's a no.
If you change the plot/trigger values you can get forgiver sign without the 108sod (and even early in the game if youwant) you can also reopen all chests, re-trigger recipe drop,...
The "only" thing to do is to find the right value =)

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Postby x_mage24 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:10 pm

Red Killey wrote:We know that you can save her with equipping crappy armor because it doesn't matter what armor you equip her. What matters is her DEF stat (which is PROT + the DEF bonus from armors and accessories). So if Ced was right that the magic number is indeed 121, then you could equip her with whatever armor as long as the DEF is 121 or higher.

And the dialogue doesn't matter as long as you pick it quick enough (there's a time limit to choose, and if you let the computer to choose it for you because you're too slow, you'd fail to save her).


:?: :!: wha??? I thought you needed all 180 stars of destiny?! I didn't know that the DEF mattered at all!

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Postby weird_name_lah » Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:12 am

Just in case you haven't known, it does. But usually a lot of people would have equipped her decently or has raised her level sufficiently since Nanami appears in most of the story events, such that the value is above the one mentioned.

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hmmm.. read this..

Postby jowy atriedes » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:05 am

you all thinked of the hard way.. u can save nanami even less than either 180 or 120.
you just have to simply select the dialouge for riuo when the time nanami was hitted by the arrows. But the dialouge has a time limit and if you don't select immediateley.. u will lose nanami.. whatever happens.... i've tried it in all my 5 playthrough of suikodedn 2, even her DEF is less than 120.. i guess that's easier than having her defense leveled up!

if you have replies.. pls.. send it not to my private inbox, but to this bulletin.. tnx!

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Re: hmmm.. read this..

Postby Red Killey » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:29 pm

jowy atriedes wrote:i've tried it in all my 5 playthrough of suikodedn 2, even her DEF is less than 120.. i guess that's easier than having her defense leveled up!

Not calling you a liar, but the needs to have DEF at least 121 has been tested by multiple people multiple times to prove the accuracy.
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Postby Judgement of Lorelai » Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:05 pm

she'll live if total def is 121+ w/ equips

she dies even if she has 121+ def w/ no equips

she dies if you put her double strike rune
I don't hang around with weaklings...

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Postby Ced The Lad » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:20 pm

Yeah I've said that months ago. She does indeed die now matter how high her defense is without armor. But the site never edited the information on the front page.

But I wonder what happens if you equip medicine or something that can be equipped on the item slot (that doesn't raise defense) when you're stat is already at 121. It makes me wonder.
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Postby Judgement of Lorelai » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:36 pm

it is still on that condition, she'll still dies
I don't hang around with weaklings...

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Postby RVallant » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:59 am

Not calling you a liar, but the needs to have DEF at least 121 has been tested by multiple people multiple times to prove the accuracy.


Ironically I'm in the same category as him, I've only ever had Nanami die on me when I missed out on getting Riou to respond in that time-limited text box...

Of course, that's the only theory I've ever followed and stayed with this new def stat thing interests me but I'm not much of a follower to the defence theory (considering I still remember the old "nanami must have at least one peice of armour on her or she dies" theory) so it's not really my place to disprove or prove theories. Thing is though, if it's worked for me you know...?

Has anyone disproved the timed text box thing? *obviously has a lot of topics to read up on so don't think I'm insulting anyone, i'm just ignorant of things so far lol*

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Postby ~Uriah~ » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:09 pm

I thought she doesnt die she just wanna take a break from what is going on so she doesnt burden Riou anymore things, What i thought all along was she told Dr. Huan to tell everyone she didnt make it and she was safely in the castle the rest of the game? I read this somewhere thats why i always thought she was alive and in the end of the game she's with jowy and riou starting a new life.

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Postby KFCrispy » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:11 am

well yeah, that's if she survives the arrows. apparently, she will really die if you don't fulfill the conditions we've been exploring in this thread. (including getting all 108 stars before choosing to invade Matilda)

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Postby Moonbay » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:37 am

I've always had Nanami with a high DEF--for one reason. She was usually in the front row--so she got attacked more than others. Had to give her SOMEthing.....

But, I never knew that her DEF played a role, too, in her survival. I think I may have to play again to test this.


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