Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

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Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby suikokid2 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:05 pm

Hey can i ask something about Suikoden 2, regarding the Luca Blight battle? In the 3 battles with luca blight, is it me or do character's normal physical attacks miss a lot and certain special/rune attacks miss a lot? Or is that just me?

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby sticky-runes » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:54 pm

I've found that Oulan's Angry Dragon rune misses sometimes. I put her in berserk mode whenever I can so that she can use it more than once.

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby wataru14 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:42 am

I have never connected with any special Rune attacks (Shrike, Falcon, Angry Dragon, etc.) against Luca. They always miss.

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby suikokid2 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:07 pm

wataru14 wrote:I have never connected with any special Rune attacks (Shrike, Falcon, Angry Dragon, etc.) against Luca. They always miss.

I figure a lot of those do, Falcon runes included.

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby suikokid2 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:06 pm

Dont regular, physical attacks miss a lot too? I believe.

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby Omnigamer » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:51 am

Luca's dodge rate is pretty high because his TECH is so high, per the dodge rate formula. The normal hit rate formula should apply to most special attacks. Unite attacks, however, cannot miss.

Character Hit Rate = Character TECH - Enemy TECH + 80

Oulan in particular has pretty poor tech, so hitting with Angry Dragon will be quite difficult. That said, you should always have at least 35% chance to hit, so you can still bank on being lucky sometimes.

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby sticky-runes » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:47 am

I think the vengeful child spell still allows counter attacks to hit 100% as well in this battle.

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby suikokid2 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:48 pm

Is there ever a time where if you attack luca with a plain, physical attack and it misses, he wont counter it or will he always counter your physical attacks that miss?

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby suikokid2 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:11 pm

Omnigamer wrote:Luca's dodge rate is pretty high because his TECH is so high, per the dodge rate formula. The normal hit rate formula should apply to most special attacks. Unite attacks, however, cannot miss.

Character Hit Rate = Character TECH - Enemy TECH + 80

Oulan in particular has pretty poor tech, so hitting with Angry Dragon will be quite difficult. That said, you should always have at least 35% chance to hit, so you can still bank on being lucky sometimes.

Are you sure the normal hit rate formula should apply with most special rune attacks? I've had most special rune attacks miss quite a bit and in all other battles including bosses, they hit normal rate and are accurate. Thats the only reason i ask for this fight

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby sticky-runes » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:22 am

I've had times where special rune attacks miss the Harpy boss.

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby suikokid2 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:22 pm

wataru14 wrote:I have never connected with any special Rune attacks (Shrike, Falcon, Angry Dragon, etc.) against Luca. They always miss.

Do you mean connected like as in use them?

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby wataru14 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:36 pm

suikokid2 wrote:Do you mean connected like as in use them?


No, "connected" as in they don't hit him. I usually have to kill Luca with Unite Attacks and Lightning magic,

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Re: Luca Blight Battle (Spoilers)

Postby suikokid2 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:58 pm

Titan rune misses a lot too on Luca. I also dont remember a time where he just dodges a close melee ranged attack (non special/runes) and wont counter. If thats even possible?


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