Level 1 Hero run

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Level 1 Hero run

Postby KoLAddict » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:09 am

I'm just pass the Dwarven Vault with a level 1 Hero, so I can get some of the characters to come at level 99. I was wondering, even if I abuse the hell out of the rune piece trick, is it even possible to beat Kwanda at level 1?

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby Celes » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:55 am

It is. I've done that even without the rune piece exploit by farming a lot of defense rune pieces from enemies:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10150#p109802

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby KoLAddict » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:28 am

Ooh thanks. I read your first post but I didn't go through the whole thing because it's such a huge thread. That's good to know!

Another thing, if I keep Hero at level 1 until I get everyone, the characters that come -2 levels, will they be 99 too or will it loop to 98?

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby Pyriel » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:11 am

They'll be 99. You're exploiting a bug called variable underflow. In a single-byte variable 1 - 2 = 0xFF and unless it's kept sign-extended that will be seen as 255, and then adjusted to the 99 upper limit. Doing underflow in decimal and within the bounds expected by the game, where subtracting 2 from 1 would behave as though 0 doesn't exist, winding up at 98, would require the coders to actually implement that behavior. So it wouldn't be a bug. It would be exactly what they intended.

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby Celes » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:12 am

The link above goes to a specific post, not the first one in the thread. The relevant information is in that post.

If the starting lv. is calculated <1 or >99, it will always result in lv. 99.

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby KoLAddict » Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:12 pm

Thanks you two!

New (and final) question regarding the bug. Is it possible to defeat Teo at level 1? Or has that not been tested?

I just realized I'm about to do the Major Battle after getting the Fire Spears, which involves that, and I don't know if it's possible to do. If I Defense Stone trick max defense then put great gear on, maybe? I have to go to bed now for work tonight, but I'll be messing with it tomorrow to see if it's possible if you haven't tested it out.

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby Celes » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:05 pm

It is all about ATK and ARM in the duels. Use the guide on this website to determine the next attack and Teo's stats.
ATK = Weapon + PWR
ARM = Armor + DEF

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby KoLAddict » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:24 am

Thanks. Teo has 240 ATK so I just need to get 240+ for ARM to knock his attacks to 1 dmg. That's not too bad.

Thanks Celes!

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby Celes » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:52 am

At this point the best euipment would be Head Gear, Dragon Armor, Guard Ring and Goldlet for a total of 81 armor defense.

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Re: Level 1 Hero run

Postby sporefrog » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:34 pm

@KoLAddict

you can not only beat Teo,you can even reach the end of the game with a level 1 hero,if you want.I did this in a specific challenge around 2,5 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2grfNu2c0J8

I had 281 ARM,which made Teo completely harmless.you see my stats right after the Teo battle in the video at minute 2:35.


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