[Guide] Unites List

[Punkaiser]

I'm doing updates for this list and need help. Could sumbody check the damage modifier and unbalance status from blacksmith unite please, all my saves are at gregminster so can't do it myself.

EDIT : Everyone can view it from here
Suikoden I Unites list

[gildedtalon]

So you want my saves? But I have no idea how to
Should I just upload the emulator folder along with its contents?

[KFCrispy]

you can check the specific file name of the memory card(s) the emulator is using by trying to change the card. that's the only file you'd need to send.

[Punkaiser]

Thanks alot, glidedtalon. With your mem card, i've finished the list. You guys can check it here:

Suikoden I Unites list

*Note*
There're much more inaccurate details than i thought. Some highlights as the fact we actually only have 2 unites which provide 2.5x DM
While surprisingly Ronnie/pahn unite provides x3 DM
Blacksmiths attack does 3.5x DM but only require 4 participants, not the whole pack of 5.
..etc..

[gildedtalon]

only require 4 participants, not the whole pack of 5.
..etc..

let's say you bring all 5, who will be left out?

[Punkaiser]

your choice...that's why i wrote "any 4" of them.

Say, if only that Hix hix didnt join in tengaar rescue team, we could have easily demolished neclord with 4M unite.

[gildedtalon]

Usually when we choose unite, next, we just have to choose which enemy to target.

Let's say it's A,B,C,D,E so there are 5 possible combinations

A,B,C,D
A,B,C,E
A,B,D,E
A,C,D,E
B,C,D,E

So you're saying that we must pick them one by one or you just have to scroll among the 5 possible combinations?

[Punkaiser]

yes, there're 5 possibilities to form this unite.

With this battle formation :

Tir----------------- A ---------------- B
C ------------------D----------------- E

When you give out command, after Tir, it's then A's choice. In A's unite list it will show 4 choices which let you pick companions to fight along in the attack which would be:
ABCD
ABCE
ABDE
ACDE

If you don't decide to let A participate in, command him with something else, the turn passes to B's command then in his unite there's only one choice as BCDE.

[gildedtalon]

Oh yeah, I totally forgot how it works. Thanks a lot, I was too lazy to play this game again just to see
After getting that horrible Phero Rune which took me a lifetime, I have committed to never play this game again

[KFCrispy]

wow 1x dmg from Master Pupil Attack? it always felt like it did less than Wild Arrow... ---maybe it usually did more damage due to their natural Wind element..

also i think you missed True Beauty Attack--all 4 women?

[Punkaiser]

Simply because true beauty unite never existed in S1
Valeria and Sonya don't seem to acknowledge each other

[Algus]

Is that right on Master Pupil? It seemed like it did a ~little~ more damage than if I just had them attack separately. That's why I'd usually pick it even if there were only two enemies.

I wasn't being scientific about it though, so I didn't test extensively.

[Punkaiser]

KFC thought it was less and you think it should be more hehe. I tested on same enemies for a while, it's true because of the varied range, sometimes it appears as 0.9x then sometimes 1.1x but in average i see that the numbers lean towards 1x i.e.

[ninjaluc79]

No damage for Kirkis Unites with Stallion and Rubi yet.

[Punkaiser]

they're totally the same from kirkis+sylvina unite.
Also identical details for the 2 beauty attacks. But well, i will modify as you wish to avoid confusion.