It's misleading because of the author is no longer active member who currently joinning in the talk.

You may feel like i'm imposiing my idea on you, but you missed the point where and how the debate developped. I'll sum up our disccussion so you can see why you messed thing up:

-Thread starter was mpico suggested to make a mix list as you can see it, but failed to calculate all possibilities and end up being biased towards characters with "nice stats", jacks of all trades same as your case, neglecting everything about unite and unique runes <this is the reason i said you havent followed what we have been discussing at all>.

What i call calculation is about number and score with solid proof, not something you pull out of nowhere and claim it to be right like skill/3 issue. You failed to prove it to me. the only real formula is

Damage dealt = total base power*multiplier*hit rate

with base power= strength stat + weapon power + equipments

Multiplier=possible runes/unites/normal attack with critical 's average performance and weapon element (but we agreed to leave weapon element aside)

There you can see how "nice stats" only take a small plus part in the formula while unites, runes represent in multiplier part.

Yet, you expect me to acknowledge something like Skill/3 in a formula from a math of plus att+power+skill/3??? which is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the real damage concept?

-KFC made his analysis about how unites, runes, stats, magic performance should be considered.

-Everyone at that moment see that'd be too complicated to mix up everything from damage potential from physical and magical performance since each aspect involve other things..

-ninjaluc suggested to divide into roles and rank them separately, that's where we start with physical DD tier which is also the part which consume the most pages of this thread . Since i agreed with his idea so i gave him my support.

-pisuke jumps in and make an analysis with same idea as the original author that he wants to mix things up again but never shown any convincing arguments, absolutely fall in same case as mpico and see the future of this thread? gonna be back to step 1 LOL with Pisuke playing thread starter's role and Punkaiser the villain again.

Unless you show an effective and realistic way to rank precisely with mixed elements, otherwise i won't ever be convinced, What I've been doing here with the guys is to figure way to make several rankings specialised in roles, there'll be physical ranking, magic ranking, and possibly tank ranking. If you feel like i'm too abusing, force my way into you, feel free to show me where did I go wrong! But don't come up with stuff out of nowhere and consider it the truth or logic and force it back to me, I'm servant of logic and numbers, show me some of them then i'll take your idea then.