The Suikoden Character Classes: Your iconic choices?

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While Suikoden doesn't have a hard set "Class System" there does seem to be specific groupings of characters where there's similar stances/traits. Sometimes it's just from sprite similarities, but still.

Right off hand, I can think of a few examples:

Martial Artists: Pahn, Morgan, Eikei
Heavy Knights: Pesmerga, Humphrey
Magic Knights: Flik, Grenseal, Alen
Adventurers: Lorelai, Quincy, Cleo
Mages: Lotte, Luc , Crowley

There's also racial groupings, but they tend to vary more per game. Any obvious suggestions I missed or also just mistagged?
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Cleo? Adventurer?
Godlike swordsmanship: Georg, Viktor, Richard, Ferid, Troy, Kika, Lazlo, Chris, Luca Blight, Yuber
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gildedtalon wrote:Cleo? Adventurer?
Godlike swordsmanship: Georg, Viktor, Richard, Ferid, Troy, Kika, Lazlo, Chris, Luca Blight, Yuber
You are forgetting Valeria the Goddeslike swodswomanship.
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Adventurer doesn't suit Cleo's personality. It's a term meant for characters like Meg and Millie who wander off and do things of their own accord. Cleo takes her duties very seriously. She's acts as a protector, although she's not as overbearing as Gremio or Nanami.

I'd class Cleo as a "soldier mage" or "guard mage" (so not quite a mage knight) and place her alongside characters such as Sharmista, Bernadette and Nelis. Maybe some people prefer the term "long range mage" or something like that.
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Could you specify “class”? Profession/Occupation? Strengths? Fighting style? Story/army integration?
Demand nothing: Nanami, Zamza, Maximillian, ...
Demand something specific: Karen, Simone, Connell, …
Require conviction or demand credo: Shu, Badeaux, Jess, …
Require being excelled: Amada, Gantetsu, Stallion, …
Hope for or need help: Hix, Futch, Clive, …

I was thinking about something else when you guys mentioned Cleo. Some leaders have a right hand and left hand follower, one of them physically stronger, the other one magically stronger:
- Teo has Cleo and Pahn at home, and Alen and Grenseal when away
- Tir and Riou have Flik and Viktor
- Gorudo has Camus and Miklotov
- Luca and Jowy have Culgan and Seed
- Craig has Rahal and Roog
- Lucretia has Lelei and Cius
Oh, and Sheena has Mom and Dad :P
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Wolkendrache wrote:Could you specify “class”? Profession/Occupation? Strengths? Fighting style? Story/army integration?
Demand nothing: Nanami, Zamza, Maximillian, ...
Demand something specific: Karen, Simone, Connell, …
Require conviction or demand credo: Shu, Badeaux, Jess, …
Require being excelled: Amada, Gantetsu, Stallion, …
Hope for or need help: Hix, Futch, Clive, …

That's actually a very interesting way to sort them out, I'll re-use this classification in the remake of Suikoden IV, see how we can improve things!
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Ninja: Kage, Kasumi, Sasuke, Ayame, Watari
Mascot girl: Milie, Norma, Mel
Tricksters: Meg, Belle, Rita, Lu
Tomboy: Wakaba, Mitsuba, Emily, Lun
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Where would you fit Lorelai? she uses 3 different types of weapons.
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Lorelai 1: Archer
Lorelai 2: Halberdier or Reaper
Lorelai 5: Dominatrix

Or simply class her as Ranger, as she uses a range of weapons and fighting styles.
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I prefer S&M Queen :D
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Lorelai is a class of its own.
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If one likes her or not, she belongs to the class of the most iconic Suikoden characters along with Viktor, Flik, Georg, Luc, Jeane, Viki, and Mukumuku. :)
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True, there is no such thing as a Suikoden game without Lorelai! Now, how will I include her in the Suikoden IV redux...
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Tramp stamp and 2 swords. Oh, and swimmies she used to travel to the island nations. Or let her sit on a rock at the coast to lure sailors towards the cliffs.
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Frederica is Lorelai's Suikoden 4 star equivalent. We'll make her recruitment so that she walks in a circle around Lazlo trying to decide if he's worthy to follow or not.

We could have a ship called The Lorelai. :mrgreen:
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