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Although a Western release seemed less and less likely over time, Sega confirmed today what many fans had already suspected - Valkyria Chronicles 3 will not be coming overseas.
In a recent interview, Hiroshi Seno, Sega's team manager of console sales, was asked about the PSP title which saw its Japanese release at the beginning of the year. He confirmed there are no plans, as the system just isn't popular in North America and Europe. Furthermore, the previous installments had to achieve a certain number in sales in these territories - something which Valkyria Chronicles II last year failed to do.

Seno was then asked about the possibility of bringing Valkyria Chronicles 3 to the Vita as a download title. He only said that it would be discussed and decided upon in Sega's next meeting with Sony.
fark!

Take an unexpected big hit (from the point of view of critics and public apreciating it, not sales) console game. Transform it to portable series because is cheaper... Not release the new games out of japan.

Sometimes I really hate this industry.
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This doesn't bode well for the new Suiko title :(
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Take an unexpected big hit (from the point of view of critics and public apreciating it, not sales) console game. Transform it to portable series because is cheaper... Not release the new games out of japan.
This, i think it won't be released at all, Japanese gamers complain about it being heavily recycles VC2 maps.
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This is infurating but perhaps it's for the best. Valkyria Chronices is in my top 5 games of all time. However, VC2's only redeeming feature was game play and even some of that was hampered (small maps with checkpoint bases, random drops for class change). The plot of VC2 was terrible, the characters annoying (what a difference in protagonist, ugh!), the graphics uglier.
VC 1 had moments where I actually cried, VC2 just made me want to cry out in frustration.
I heard VC3 was going to be much the same as VC2. So it's probably for the best that it isn't coming here and doesn't further damage my memories of VC1.
However, that being said, it's Sega's own fault that VC2's sales were not good over here. They put it on the least popular system (the PSP) and its quality just wasn't very good. They're blaming us for the bad sales? That's ridiculous. I guess they just got lucky with VC1 and don't actually know what makes a game good.
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Supposedly VC3 is more like VC1 in it's story, it's darker and more mature, and no -ing school kids. But SEGA shot themselves in the foot, VC2 was a horrible sequel and that's the major reason it didn't sell and the PSP isn't equipped to handle it with the miniscule maps they had to resort to.

But I still wouldn't get VC3 if came out here, because VC2 was just that bad, and thank god I never actually bought that travesty.
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Sweet, another promising franchise regressing to Japan-only status.
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Valkyria Chronicles 1 story was dark and mature? Oh yeah, I forgot when the Flying Pig was sacrificed.....

And VC2 had it's flaws, nobody would deny that (trying to grab MH audience tends to do that), but it's hardly as horrible as some people make it out to be.

Still, I'm super disappointed...but I pray for a PSN release for VITA or maybe even an HD upgrade for the PS3.....

But it makes too much sense, and it's SEGA.
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daoster wrote:Valkyria Chronicles 1 story was dark and mature? Oh yeah, I forgot when the Flying Pig was sacrificed.....
We've done this dance before. The first game was comparable in many ways to the first Final Fantasy Tactics in terms of tone (aided by Hitoshi Sakimoto's score). Short of the flying pig, I'm hard pressed to find anything distinctly anime about the story.

Anyway, VC3 not coming here pretty much solidifies my dislike of Sega. Lucky for me, they're not releasing any games I'm remotely anticipating for the next year and a half. Their abandonment of the Shining series and now the Valkyria series outside of Japan means I'll be happy with NISA, Atlus, and XSEED releases for a very long time.
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We've done this dance before. The first game was comparable in many ways to the first Final Fantasy Tactics in terms of tone (aided by Hitoshi Sakimoto's score). Short of the flying pig, I'm hard pressed to find anything distinctly anime about the story.
Whoa...whoa...whoa. I am not going to let this one get away.....Valkyria Chronciles compared to the tone of Final Fantasy Tactics?

Valkyria Chronciles followed the tone of a typical shonen story, complete with their character archetypes and evrything. The most popular character (Edy) is a "rich princess" type character found in a lot of series that follow these tones.

No doubt the story is dealing with a serious matter, and there were some serious scenes (quickly forgotten in the next scene of course..)...but for the most part....

Hey, I greatly enjoyed the story in Valkyria Chronicles, I probably liked it better than VC2 (I liked the game better too), but let's not make it out to be something more than it was.
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Claiming that Valkyria Chronicles is any more stereotypical than Final Fantasy Tactics was is relying far too much on nostalgia. Ovelia IS a rich princess in every sense of the word and Agrias/Meliadoul are prototypical tsundere.

Let's not forget that both Valkyria Chronicles and Final Fantasy Tactics are blatant ripoffs of major European events and myths.
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LanceHeart wrote:Claiming that Valkyria Chronicles is any more stereotypical than Final Fantasy Tactics was is relying far too much on nostalgia. Ovelia IS a rich princess in every sense of the word and Agrias/Meliadoul are prototypical tsundere.

Let's not forget that both Valkyria Chronicles and Final Fantasy Tactics are blatant ripoffs of major European events and myths.
Are you telling me that tone wise Final Fantasy Tactics and Valkyria Chronicles are similar? Jeanne D'Arc for the PSP is also a blatant ripoff of a historical war in Europe, would you say it's tone is the same as FFT and VC1?

Final Fantasy Tactics might not be the greatest gift to human literature that so many of its fans seem to claim, but it definitely has a different feel and tone from Valkyria Chronicles, with it's anime tropes.

Ojousamas? Check!
Strong female chick needlessly devoted to the main baddy? Check!
Flamboyantly gay muscle man? Check!
Beach scene with bikini fanservice? Check!
I half expected a hotspring chapter somewhere in the game!

And this is me going off my memory, having not played VC1 in years. I'm sure if I replay it, I'll come up with plenty of others. VC1 is (and VC2 too, mind you) essentially a shonen anime with great gameplay. Nothing wrong with that, as shonen is an enjoyable genre.

You don't like VC2's story? No problem. The main character can be annoying, and some people have a problem playing as a teenagers. And the military academy setting might be a bit off putting to some. But come on, to claim that VC1's story is anymore deeper, darker, and more mature than VC2 is just not true.
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Sad Panda.

Though I confess I was hoping more for Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity...

I'd be surprised if Sega let XSEED et all have this one, but you never know.
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Sega apparently is losing money hand over fist, with layoffs and restructuring expected:

http://www.screwattack.com/shows/origin ... ews-033012

This makes a VC 3 translation a minimal priority, obviously. So, I doubt we will see it, though this could open up an XSEED version, if Sega is looking to sell translation rights for quick cash. I guess it all depends on how proud Sega feels like acting.

As far as the other parts of the conversation here, I have no clue what "shonen" and "tsundere" are, but while Valkyria Chronicles does rework WWII, FF Tactics is just as blatant of a rip-off of the succession of Richard II in Britain, though, since Richard II is not such a popular character anymore, it is harder to detect unless you know your history.

Though, both were great games, and I don't mind a retelling of history being central to the plot. Yes, the beach scene was horridly out of place in Valkyria Chronicles. And the melodrama at the end when the love story comes to fruition. . . I could have done without that. But overall, it was a great game in its own right, and I feel little need to compare it to FF Tactics.

Also, don't use words like "archetype" and "prototype" if you do not know what they mean. The word you guys are looking for is "generic," as in, something that adheres to genre, or in this case, sub-genre.
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For sure, Final Fantasy Tactics is 100% free of stereotypes or prototypes or generic-ness or whatever you might call it in your part of this world. How dare anyone say otherwise!
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Generic-ness is a great word. I'll have to use it from now on.

That aside, one of the reasons I like Suikoden is because it seems to be about as free from gender discrimination as games can get. Most games are have a male-dominated story, or actually exploit the male pornographic imagination under the guise of having a female lead character. (anyone play Bayonetta or Wet? or for that matter, Tomb Raider?)

So, if there are some generic stereotypes in FF Tactics and Valkyria Chronicles, I do not mind so much, at least they acknowledge females as beings that have feelings and desires, thoughts and goals beyond the sexuality projected onto them by the presumably male player.
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