[Guide] Character Stats

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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby Ellyos » Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:42 pm

Hello everybody, I've completed the stat growth chart from lv1 to 60 for all characters.
(After the level 60 is not interesting. HP/MP seem to gain 2 by level, when other stats seem to gain 0.5 by level for any rank)
As stated by Antimatzist, there are 9 ranks for stats and HP/MP. I freely named them E, D, C, B-, B, B+, A, A+, S.
This naming has some sense for me, so let me explain :
* C, D, E are the 3 lowest values.
* B-, B, B+ have the same letter because they are the middle columns, and they're nice to easily detect average stats.
* A, A+ have the same letter because HP/MP progression after the level 30 is the same for them.
* S is just the best value.

First, you can find the Excel file there : Stat growth chart for all characters from level 1 to 60
Then, if you don't care about .xls file, there are 3 .jpg you can find there :

First pic : Rank progression from level 1 to 60, and character starting level.
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You'll find some blank at the beginning of the list. That's because no chararacter has this rank at this level.
For example, Muro is the lowest level character with Rank E in HP/MP progression, that's why the column starts at level 12.

Second pic : Characters Ranks for all stats (even for Dirk, Marica?, Cougar and Atrie)
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Ranks have color to detect perfect (red), good (green) and bad (blue) values.
You'll see 8 values A/A+. That's because those characters start at level 30+, so I can't determine which rank they have. Anyway, that's not important, the progression is the same.

Third pic : Characters by rank for each stat
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This image list who are the best or the worst characters for a stat.

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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby Antimatzist » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:14 am

Thank you so much! I got halfway through the game and the stats and never bothered finishing it. This is cool. :)

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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby ninjaluc79 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:50 pm

Somehow, stat-wise, Sieg reminds me of Riou and Lazlo, while Marica reminds me of Kika.
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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby Ellyos » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:45 pm

Well, I'd say almost all RPGs heroes have this archetype.
Good Melee Fighter with high : HP, Attack, Counter/Dodge rate and Critical Hit rate.
+ Nice Speed and Defense.
And even in magical stats, they have decent values.

Often, they also have a way to make fights easier. Usually some healing capacity, even if weak. Tir has even a better tool with "instant kill".

Since the hero is (usually) an unremovable character, he needs to fill any role your team is lacking.

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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby ninjaluc79 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:23 pm

Suikoden staple. Not your good old "Swordsman Hero, Healer / Mage Love Interest" type of game. Among the non-ST heroes, only Lazlo is the Swordsman. The rest are something like the Monk class, what with their blunt weapons. Hugo is the Fragile Speedster among the heroes.
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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby Ellyos » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:41 pm

Well Suikoden III is a bit different since there is not only one hero.
Moreover, all of them have sword (well it's a curved long knife for Hugo).

Chris is a tank and she doesn't excel in magic. But still, she can heal.
Hugo, like you said, is built on Speed ability + a decent magical power. Else, he's not really strong in HP or attack power.
Geddoe is probably the one which correspond to the hero archetype.
Thomas... well, it's Thomas.

I wish for a magician hero in Suikoden to change... It could make interesting duels.

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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby ninjaluc79 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:23 am

Man, this is awesome. This should be posted in the official SS guides.
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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby Antimatzist » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:20 am

Ellyos, your files are no longer available. Can you maybe upload them directly in the board softqare via attachment and can this info be included on the main page?

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Re: [Guide] Character Stats

Postby veriaqa » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:37 pm

Tierkreis? Could not care less...
I've came with an army who loves death like Yours loves live.


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