[Guide] Trading prices / unlockables

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[Guide] Trading prices / unlockables

Postby KFCrispy » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:49 pm

Draekon is sharing his complete trade prices list:
XLS: http://draekon.com/guides/Suikoden%20Tr ... Prices.xls
XLSX: http://draekon.com/guides/Suikoden%20Tr ... rices.xlsx


Since the spreadsheet is already available and lists most prices, this topic will try to document the unlockables and when/how they become available.
UNLOCKABLE TRADE ITEMS
Life Lichen: make large profit trading lots of Herbal Medicine
Wool Cloth: make large profit trading lots of Wool Yarn
Cotton Cloth: make large profit trading lots of Cotton Thread
Silk Cloth: make large profit trading lots of Silk Thread
Giant Crab Meat: Becomes available after befriending the Porposkin (beat the boss in Coastal Cove).
Fish Guts: recruit Wustum
Demon Corn Ear: recruit Wustum
Dried Truffle: recruit Wustum
Uncut Emerald: becomes available after the lake formed
Iris Stone: becomes available after the lake formed
Sunlight Stone: becomes available after the lake formed
Dragon Hide: becomes available after the lake formed
Giant Bug Shell: becomes available after the lake formed
Demon Horn: becomes available after the lake formed
Piercer Beak: becomes available after the lake formed
Lizard Frill: becomes available after the lake formed
Rainbow Thread: becomes available after the lake formed
Rainbow Cloth: make a large profit trading lots of Rainbow Thread
Iris Lazuli: Make a large profit trading Iris Stones (selling 4 Iris Stones from Citro to Salsabil works. in another playthrough i got one through an online quest boss and sold it in Salsabil, unlocking Iris Lazulis immediately!)
Pekklar Meat: Autar's Gather Animals
Marsinah Carrot: Tuhululu's Furious Roar Goods
Dragon Meat: Tuhululu's Furious Roar Goods
Moonlight Stone: Tuhululu's Astrasian Goods
Googly Tree Sap: Tuhululu's Astrasian Goods
Uncut Ruby: Tuhululu's Lugenik Goods
Uncut Diamond: Tuhululu's Lugenik Goods
Uncut Sapphire: Nofret's Help Me Dig Again
Uncut Topaz: Nofret's Help Me Dig Again
Whale Tusk: becomes available after the Desert appears
Netherlion Horn: becomes available after the Desert appears
Water Bead: becomes available after the Desert appears
Darkness Stone: becomes available after Rarohenga appears
Death Skull: Complete the quest "Rarohenga?"
Large Ruby: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Ruby (if you got them for free (enemies/quests), sell 9 Uncut Ruby at Salsabil Harbor to unlock)
Large Emerald: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Emerald
Large Sapphire: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Sapphire (if you got them for free (enemies/quests), sell ~7 Uncut Sapphire at Naineneis to unlock)
Large Topaz: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Topaz
Black Onyx: Make a large profit trading lots of Darkness Stone
Prismatic Peach: Wi-Fi quest (likely someone needs to complete your Tuhululu's Restocking Trade Goods mission)


UNLOCKABLE EQUIPMENT

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category  type            name              unlock method                  not sure?
armor     robe            Butterfly Robe    Butterfly Wings
weapon    axe             Demon Howl        Demon Horn
weapon    boomerang       Fin Blades        Demon Horn
weapon    claw            Demon Claws       Demon Horn
weapon    sword           Beast Tusk        Demon Horn
armor     armor           Dragon Armor      Dragon Hide
armor     leather armor   Dragon Leather    Dragon Hide
armor     robe            Eternal Robe      Eternal Feather
armor     armor           Bishamon Armor    Giant Bug Shell
weapon    axe             Beetle Axe        Giant Bug Shell
armor     leather armor   Beetle Leather    Giant Bug Shell
weapon    mace            Gold Mace         Gold Ore                       ?
weapon    rod             Lazuli Rod        Iris Lazuli
weapon    spear           Lazuli Spear      Iris Lazuli
weapon    axe             Iris Axe          Iris Stone
armor     plate mail      Iris Mail         Iris Stone
weapon    shield          Iris Shield       Iris Stone
weapon    sword           Iris Blade        Iris Stone
weapon    kunai           Iris Kunai        Iris Stone
weapon    axe             Great Axe         Iron Ore                       ?
weapon    bow             Iron Bow          Iron Ore                       ?
weapon    scythe          Iron Scythe       Iron Ore                       ?
weapon    shield          Iron Shield       Iron Ore                       ?
weapon    anchor          Anchor+           lake appears
weapon    fan             Grove Dance       lake appears
weapon    great sword     Beast King Sword  Netherlion Horn
weapon    bow             Beast King Bow    Netherlion Horn
weapon    spear           Piercer Spear     Piercer Beak
armor     robe            Rainbow Robe      Rainbow Thread
weapon    rod             Sapphire Rod      recruit Gadburg
weapon    anchor          Anchor            recruit Gadburg
weapon    boomerang       Throwing Knife    recruit Gadburg
weapon    cudgel          Bone Club         recruit Gadburg
weapon    fan             Wind Dance        recruit Gadburg
weapon    hammer          Great Hammer      recruit Gadburg
weapon    kunai           Kunai             recruit Gadburg
weapon    spear           Trident           recruit Gadburg
weapon    sword           Black Blade       recruit Gadburg
weapon    sword           Katana            recruit Gadburg
weapon    throwing knife  Hunter's Dagger   recruit Gadburg
armor     plate mail      Crab Armor        recruit Gadburg
weapon    shield          Scale Shield      recruit Gadburg
weapon    great sword     Field Sword       recruit Gadburg
weapon    pistol          Altered Pistols   recruit Khemia
weapon    rifle           Burst Rifle       recruit Khemia
armor     chain mail      Silver Chain      Silver Ore                     ?
armor     plate mail      Silver Mail       Silver Ore                     ?
weapon    fist            Argent Fists      Silver Ore                     ?
weapon    axe             Flame Axe         Sunlight Stone
weapon    mace            Prominence        Sunlight Stone
weapon    mace            Emerald Mace      Uncut Emerald
weapon    throwing knife  Ruby Dagger       Uncut Ruby
accessory helmet          Silver Helm       Silver Ore                     ?
accessory helmet          Gold Helm         Gold Ore                       ?
accessory helmet          Iris Helm         Iris Stone                     ?
accessory cape            Silk Cape         Silk Thread                    ?
accessory boots           Silver Boots      Silver Ore                     ?
accessory boots           Gold Boots        Gold Ore                       ?
accessory boots           Dragon Leggings   Dragon Hide                    ?
accessory other           Copper Armband    Copper Ore                     ?
accessory other           Gauntlets         Iron Ore                       ?
accessory other           Magic Armband                                    ?
accessory other           Unicorn Armband                                  ?
accessory other           Ninja Gloves                                     ?
accessory other           Ruby Ring                                        ?
accessory other           Emerald Ring                                     ?
accessory other           Sapphire Ring                                    ?
accessory other           Topaz Ring                                       ?
accessory other           Iris Necklace     Iris Stone                     ?
accessory other           Sun Necklace      Sun Stone                      ?
accessory other           Strength Sash                                    ?
weapon    great sword     Great Saw         Whale Tusk
weapon    axe             Whale Axe         Whale Tusk
weapon    spear           Ancient Tusk      Whale Tusk
accessory other           Moon Necklace     Moonlight Stone
accessory helmet          Death Helm        Death Skull
armor     armor           Diamond Armor     Diamond
accessory helmet          Corn Husk Hat     Quest: SHOWDOWN!!!
Thanks Tracy Smith @ gamefaqs for translating the Japanese site's info! (http://tierkreis.half-moon.org)


UNLOCKABLE COOKED ITEMS
Draekon has provided a list of unlockable cooked items and his own Trading prices/info spreadsheet: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=10688&p=116996#p116996

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices

Postby patapi » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:19 pm

KFCrispy wrote:I've only been to 3 trading posts so far, and Cynas is no longer accessible.. feel free to contribute!
it seems the prices at trading posts are fixed and they may only change when there are rumors (DO correct me if i'm wrong!!).
there are unlimited items. the only limit is the maximum number of each item you can hold - many have a limit of 99. metal ore seems to be 50, and some rare/expensive stuff like Eternal Feather is limited to just 5.

Yes, rumours aside, prices and availability of items do not change. The only limit is your storage, so the trading system in this game is IMO the most user-friendly yet. They also see far more use than your standard Suikoden titles, due to the no-potch enemy drops.

Most people miss this, but it's worth noting that trading a certain amount of specific items and generating a certain amount of profit from them unlock specific new items in HQ shops.

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices

Postby KFCrispy » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:22 pm

patapi wrote:Most people miss this, but it's worth noting that trading a certain amount of specific items and generating a certain amount of profit from them unlock specific new items in HQ shops.

what are some examples? are you saying unlocking something like Wool Cloth will unlock more armors in your HQ shop?

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices

Postby patapi » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:32 pm

Yeah, something like that. e.g. Trading enough Iris Stone will unlock Iris Blades in Gadburg's smithy.

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices

Postby KFCrispy » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:42 am

I found some gamefaqs users have already put a list together!

Master Trade Spreadsheet by Xaintrix and Naucitos COPY THE LINK THEN PASTE INTO YOUR BROWSER.
Their google document: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= ... 9sOA&hl=en

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices

Postby KFCrispy » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:59 pm

question about some goods: i found a Dried Truffle and a Giant Bug Shell (awesome, first area-boss encounter...) and i saw i could sell them at the trading shop. so i just sold them and had assumed i had unlocked them so i could trade them at anytime, but they didn't become available immediately! do they eventually become available for trading can you only find then sell them?

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices

Postby patapi » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:49 am

Unlocking trade items seems to be mostly dependent on plot progression, especially for those two items.

I'm already before the point of no return, but I'm still stuck without Prismatic Peach, Death Skull, Uncut Sapphire and Uncut Topaz... damn.

p.s. Pretty good spreadsheet there. I already made one of my own though, and it doesn't abuse too much colours. It also helps a lot when trying to take advantage of those lovely rumours~

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices

Postby Porom » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:29 am

It seems some trading items can only be added via wifi quests. Wouldn't it be an easy workaround to just find an AR code to unlock the wifi-only stuff?

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices

Postby patapi » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:26 am

The only problem is that, do people actually do these WiFi quests?

Prismatic Peach is the only one available from there, nonetheless. Without a New Game+, it really isn't worth much. Completionists aside, that is.

Just unlocked Death Skull earlier, not sure what I did. Nofret's second quest should open up the remaining Uncut gems, so I'm training her stats up to be worthy being sent away.

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices / unlockables

Postby KFCrispy » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:31 pm

Please try to post when you find things getting unlocked - what event/quest did you just complete or what did you trade to unlock an item?

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices / unlockables

Postby patapi » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:54 pm

Like the clothes, the gems also work the same way...

Rainbow Cloth: Make a large profit trading lots of Rainbow Thread

Large Ruby: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Ruby
Large Emerald: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Emerald
Large Sapphire: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Sapphire
Large Topaz: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Topaz
Diamond: Make a large profit trading lots of Uncut Diamond

Black Onyx: Make a large profit trading lots of Darkness Stone
Iris Lazuli: Make a large profit trading Iris Stone

Pekklar Meat: Autar's Gather Animals
Uncut Sapphire, Uncut Topaz: Nofret's Help Me Dig Again
Uncut Ruby, Uncut Diamond: Tuhululu's Lugenik Goods

I still can't get Prismatic Peaches. How to make Tuhululu's wifi quest available anyway?

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices / unlockables

Postby KFCrispy » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:36 am

i didn't notice earlier until it was too late to reload an earlier save to try to figure out what unlocked Fish Guts, Demon Ear Corn, and Dried Truffles.... i just noticed all 3 were available. i assume Fish Guts is from Mislato Salmon but i'm not too sure about the others. i was trading pretty much all items available btwn Naineneis and Tehah which included all the veges.

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices / unlockables

Postby Kranach » Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:02 am

i never did a wifi quest but i was able to unlock the prismatic peach. all i know was there was a quest that rewards you with one and it was unlocked.
Suikoden I - Fuma/Kage/Kasumi
Suikoden II - Mondo/sasuke/Kasumi
Suikoden III - Landis/Watari/Ayame
Suikoden IV - Akaghi/Mizuki/Kate
Suikoden V - Shigure/Sagiri/Raven

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices / unlockables

Postby patapi » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:58 pm

If that's the case, you ought to have the quest recorded. What's the title?

You can get the Prismatic Peach item for selling from a number of sources, but are you sure that you have unlocked it as a "buyable" item at the trading posts?

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Re: [Guide] Trading prices / unlockables

Postby Kranach » Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:10 pm

now that you mentioned it, did my game had a glitch? cause i know i saw it before, but now that i can buy dragon meat it is gone, how strange.
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Suikoden II - Mondo/sasuke/Kasumi

Suikoden III - Landis/Watari/Ayame

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