[Guide] Unite Attacks

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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby patapi » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:29 am

KFCrispy wrote:yeah we should try to provide more details than the descriptions in the game, since they are not very clear

Hmm, I agree. I was trying to stay as close as possible to the in-game's description in the opening list, but I guess we can always improve. It's kinda obvious the translators could only squeeze so much info in the game, due to space constraints (compared to how little space kanji took, in comparison).

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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby Chaos_Zero » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:54 pm

So what are the most powerful/useful? On a physically powerful standpoint, I really liked Crodechild/Fredegund "Divine Edge" unite. It's incredibly powerful, and allows you to conserve MP for when you wanna use their True Falcon skills on bosses/hard enemies.

Tsaubern and Chein: "Lightning Lash" looks freaking awesome. I love how they just walk slowly towards the enemy and in a flash of ridiculous Dragonball-esque speed, the enemy gets torn up. Too bad Tsaubern isn't as useful as Chein.
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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby KFCrispy » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:42 am

it will be nice to group the support character unites separately... so we would have categories for 1 + support, 2 + support, etc

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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby KFCrispy » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:45 pm

Mascots (Autar and Numnu) damage 1 enemy and seems to do something big like 2x or 3x damage. Also, it can cause Fury to the enemy.
I just tested vs enemies strong vs pierce and weak vs slash and gave both of them pierce weapons since I couldn't give both slash or both strike due to their equipment limitations. For normal attacks, Autar w/197 atk did 311 dmg, and Numnu w/241 atk did 424 dmg. Their unite is ranging from 2800-3000+. I assume their particular unite is elementless since they're just sitting there throwing hearts... I am assuming being strong vs an attack element reduces damage by 30%. If so, their normal damage (if they both could use strike) would be around 1000...
However, now I'm fighting the Soul Eater and it seems to be doing 2x damage.

looks like Sisuca + Marica is 1.5x dmg and also seems to ignore attack element.

Selen + Jale looks like 1.2x dmg

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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby KFCrispy » Sun May 03, 2009 5:06 pm

Shining Scalp has a chance to cause Bucket to any ally.

Royal Pride: Shams gets Fury, Manaril gets Alert

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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby Stallion » Wed May 13, 2009 12:23 am

Matt620 wrote:Night's Veil causes Meruvis and Roberto to go unbalance, not Chrodechild


I believe Chrodechild does unbalance from this unite however one of her early and most useful marks is immunity to that status.

--edit--
After playing this again i did the unite before setting any marks and she didn't unbalance. :)
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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby Punkaiser » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:19 am

Im thinking about replaying this game again and plan to abuse more of the unites this time, but is there any source indicate some multipliers? Like Royal pride seems to deal just 0.5x-1x

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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby Punkaiser » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:31 am

i took the original info from your source and update some news, feel free to correct them. Monster chosen for the tests is Underground as it has no strength or weekness againts any physical element.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhOFdagpt-IvdHFfdlVWNE04Q2pSaHFWaHdCaHNfa0E

Edit: sorry, forgot to unlock sharing option.

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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby KFCrispy » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:55 pm

awesome, thanks a lot! we can probably turn it into a proper guide now.

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Re: [Guide] Unite Attacks

Postby Punkaiser » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:54 pm

glad it helps, to tell the truth, i needed it as well to make my decision on which party to form, only one good deed was the sharing.


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