Braxiatel wrote:I have removed all references to the Suikoden name, because this is *not* a Suikoden game.
I'm sorry, but could you be MORE of a poor sport?
Braxiatel wrote:I have removed all references to the Suikoden name, because this is *not* a Suikoden game.
SnowKing wrote:You know how Konami made it, used some of the regular Suikoden formula and called the game Suikoden Tierkreis? Yeah, that's a generally good indicator that the game is a Suikoden game. Funny that.
Braxiatel wrote:SnowKing wrote:You know how Konami made it, used some of the regular Suikoden formula and called the game Suikoden Tierkreis? Yeah, that's a generally good indicator that the game is a Suikoden game. Funny that.
* Weapons bought instead of upgraded.
* No True Runes
* No one-on-one duels
* No strategic battles
* No re-occurring characters confirmed
* Set in parallel world. ???
And the above are pretty bloody good indicators that it is not.
Simply slapping the name on a generic RPG made for 12 year olds does not make it a Suikoden game.
Antimatzist wrote:Just two words: 108 Stars of Destiny (Oh, more than 2 words^^)
Just look at it as a new take on the series.
Antimatzist wrote:Tactics didn't have duels or war battles, suikogaiden neither. Suikoden IV had a total of 3 recurring characters! (4 if you want to include Reinbach) So is it just partly a Suikoden game?
Braxiatel wrote:Antimatzist wrote:Just two words: 108 Stars of Destiny (Oh, more than 2 words^^)
Just look at it as a new take on the series.
Yes, a new take that is a complete cash-in. And simply throwing in a whole bunch of characters does not automatically make it a Suikoden game.
SnowKing wrote:Yet Suikoden Tierkreis, despite only having a couple of our more 'conventional' Suikoden aspects, is still Suikoden. It could be a 'generic RPG designed by 12 year olds' as you've said about 100 times on this board but they've used the 108 stars basis and stuck Suikoden in the title, so whether you like it or not, that does technically make it a Suikoden game.
If you don't think it's Suikoden, then why are you still hanging around in this forum?
Antimatzist wrote:But you sound like those people who didn't like Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter, just because there is only one playable dragon.
Braxiatel wrote:Because I was hoping people were sensible enough to see that this isn't a real Suikoden game and actually wanted a proper console release.
Just slapping a name on something does not automatically make it a proper title.
LanceHeart wrote:I don't see how you can be more stubborn than a mule when it comes to this game. I've gotten over the fact that this probably isn't remotely related to what Suikoden 6 might be nor what they were trying to do with Suikoden 5's return (read: copying) of Suikoden 2. All I can hope for is that this game creates more interest in a series that I'm sure Konami wanted to give the boot.
Braxiatel wrote:Antimatzist wrote:But you sound like those people who didn't like Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter, just because there is only one playable dragon.
Another irrelevant example.
BOF is another series that's changed from game to game like Final Fantasy. You can't compare those to Suikoden because there's no consistent world building going on in those games. And I liked BOF V just fine.
If this is successful, I have no doubt they'll do endless copies of Tierkries for the DS instead of doing a proper Suikoden sequel.
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