[Guide] "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby sunstar25 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:25 pm

Didn't realize there were points for others. From the very beginning, I was always snotty to Euram.

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby SSA316 » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:49 pm

This is interesting, any chance of posting the rest of the list?

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby Tacti » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:20 am

She did say as she got time. Can't wait for an update! I'm playing through the second time, 'cause the first time, I got an unacceptable ending that I won't spoil for those that don't want it to be. It was so sad. :cry:

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby WuYung » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:10 pm

haha i didnt know the detail of such effects! =O For example Bernadette is always protecting the prince... I dont know if anything with Shigure and Sagiri protecting one another has anything to do with it either.

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby creativerealms » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:44 pm

Wow I knew the choices effected some of the characters, but it effects more then I thought. I picked the meaner choices when it came to Euram myself.

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby tutachan » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:12 am

hmmm...
why should we increase lyon's affection to get the prince travel with georg?
shouldn't we increase georg affection instead0_0?
this is strange :)
anyway i don't like lyon and try to be mean to her everytime i can.
but it seems that decrease the liking level is harder than increase it>_<

can't we have georg/108stars ending without having to be nice to lyon?

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby KFCrispy » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:09 am

tutachan wrote:hmmm...
why should we increase lyon's affection to get the prince travel with georg?
shouldn't we increase georg affection instead0_0?
this is strange :)
anyway i don't like lyon and try to be mean to her everytime i can.
but it seems that decrease the liking level is harder than increase it>_<

can't we have georg/108stars ending without having to be nice to lyon?


because you need to be able to revive Lyon in order to get the ending with Georg's choices.

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby Jupiterstar1221 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:45 pm

Please update!

I want to get perfect ending!

terror of death

Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby terror of death » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:08 pm

Hello everyone! At SuikoMJM's suggestion, I've decided to post a site I've found which has the affection points for the entire game, it's all in french so you'll have to use babelfish to translate it or if you can understand it good for you!

http://www.chezcanelle.fr/suikodenV/guidesV/points.html

The other one is an affection guide for SoD's:

http://www.chezcanelle.fr/suikodenV/guidesV/pointsannex.html

Whilst the main Suikoden V site is:

http://www.chezcanelle.fr/suikodenV/

which contains character profiles/stats (spoilers included), illustrations, character recruitment guide and a complete Suikoden V map! So after visiting and using the site, don't forget to thank the webmaster!

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby Wicked_Rune_Bearer » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:37 am

I've noticed that the liking points guide is still unfinished, yet there is one in french, is it possible for someone to translate that over to english or if someone knows of the location of an english guide please post a link. I'm sure many people other then myself would gladly appreciate it, just like we have appreciated Linn's dedication with what she has done already, thanks.
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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby Wicked_Rune_Bearer » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:04 pm

I decided to go ahead and do what i could with the french version of the points of likeness system, i want to begin by thanking linn for helping relize that there were even points of system in the game, had she not begin this topic, i would have never known, second thanks to terror of death for the french version so that i could copy and paste into a translator until i got the final copy. thirdly i want to thank the translating website translation2.imtranslator.net for having such a great translator and last but not least of course the website and owners of http://www.chezcanelle.fr for creating a finished version in which i could translate from, i understand that there are a lot of french words still in the text, along with misspelling of names and other words, the reason this is, i'm guessing, is because either the writer might have misspelled some words causing the translation to not understand the word, or the translation itself couldn't understand the word or term because it was strictly a suikoden created word not in the actual french or english vocabulary. with that said, i hope everyone finds this useful, cause i know i sure will.



According to retorts chosen by the Prince, they can earn points of sympathy with certain figures.

There are three figures for whom the number of point is important because this changes certain stages to see the end of game even! These are Lyons, Lymsleia and Georg.

Influence on the end:

If they have less than 9 points Lyons, or less than 70 stars> the Prince leaves all alone at the end


If they have more than 9 points Lyons and more than 70 stars> the prince leaves with Georg


If they have more than 12 points Lym and 108 stars> Lyons and the Prince discuss with Georg by the lake. They have the choice enter help Lym and leave with Georg.



Influence on stages:


Retouvailles with Lym> happy if more than three points Lym, fachée otherwise


Lym and the Prince in Lunas> if more than 13 points, it comes to see it at night.


Escape of the Prince in Lunas> IF more than 15 points Lym, the prince gets up again by thinking of her.


Sunset in the evening in Sol-Falena> If more than 10 points Lyon, the stage is more warm-hearted and the prince has the choice to thank Lyons.
Debate the night preceding battle with Georg in the HQ> if more than 6 points Georg, he speaks about his promise in Ferid.

Influence on conscription

To recruit murad, 3 points Murad are needed
To recruit Oboro, 3 points Oboro are needed
To recruit Zegai, 3 points Zegai are needed

Other influence of points:

this augments the potency of the cooperative attacks Lyons / prince, Miakis / Prince, Sialeeds / Prince, Miakis / Kyle / Lyons / Georg / Galleon / Prince, Roy / Prince.
When HP of the Prince goes down too much, certain figures can protect it. Likelihood augments with the number of point and the proportion of lost HP.



All sentences do not give points, I put here only those who count or almost. This list is established in leave the Japanese character book (in Japanese), my memories of game in English, and an ongoing French party. It is not the sentences which you will think word for word in game but sense and order of retorts are there.

The BEGINNING
Reception of Ferid
- hushed up hurt me, papa (1 point Lyons, 1 point Sialeeds)
- stop, father

Reception of arshtat
- I am back, Mum (1 point Lyons, 1 point Sialeeds)
- I am back, mother.


Flashback: Lordlake.
In front of the home of Rovere:
- let us enter the interieur (1 point Georg, 1 point Sialeeds)
- it is enough, let us take in (1 point Lyons)

A child disappeared in the forest. Lyons offers to go to search it alone.
d' agreement
- no way (1 point Lyons, Sialeeds, Georg, Talgeyl, Goesch)

Toma makes break by Ulses
- Go to It! (1 point Georg, 1 point Sialeeds, 1 point Lyons)
qu' is as it do made?


Sol-Faléna
Have talks with the queen
- Mother! why? (1 point Lyons, Sialeeds, Galleon)
-. ......

Lyons speaks to the queen. The hero?
-. ......
- that's right, mother! (1 point Lyons, Sialeeds, Galleon)

After meeting, Sialeeds recommends to the Prince to go to see his sister
- Yes (1 point Lyons, Lymsleia)
- I am made tired


Sol-Faléna. In search of Lymsleia
If they go to the room of the Prince, the maidservant offers to the Prince to sleep.
- yes
- No, I have not seen Lym yet (1 point Lyons, Lym)

Of the quoting of the flats of the women. In front of the room of Sialeeds, The maidservant says that she sleeps.
- Awaken it
- Let it sleep (1 point Sialeeds)

If they have révéillé Sialeeds once, one awaken it again?
- Yes
- No (1 point Sialeeds)

Chamber of Lym
- Lym is not there? (1 point Lym, Lyons)
- no, yet...

Towards the room of the nurses. After the intervention of Kyle:
- Thank you Kyle. (1 point Kyle, Lyons)
- You do not have to make this.

They go to the room of the nurse?
It is a good idea (1 point Kyle)
- Hmm, I must first go to see Lym (1 point Lyons, 1 point Lym)

in the room of the nurses. Zahak: Accept our excuses.
- not, this goes... (1 point Lyons, Kyle, Georg, Galleon)
- accepted excuses.

If they speak to Alenia. Godwin takes too much power? (no influence)
If they speak to Kyle. Qqc of abnormal with Georg? (no influence)
Ferid: did you see Lym?

They want to go out of the room and they fall on Lym. If they adéja more than 3 Lym: reception of lym is tender
- I came back, Lym (1 lym)
- héé slowly

If they have less than 3 Lym: it is fachée
- I came back, Lym (1 point lym)
- it is you which began, Lym (1 point Sialeeds)


In the senate
At the entrance. Is there an emergency?
- no, they are just curious.
- yes, it is case. (1 point Lym and Miakis)

In the senate. Salum is delighted to see the princess and the others.
- euh, good morning... (1 point Salum)
- sorry? what?

Sialeeds asks of what they think of Salum
- He is not completely wrong.
- I am rather wary of him. (1 point Lym, 1 point Sialeeds)

In the office, the employee apologizes for delay
- Grieved, they would have of tell.... (1 point Lyons, Sialeeds, Kyle, Miakis, Lymsleia)
- it is good, show us the list!

Number of participants
- Seventy, it is everything?! (1 Lymsleia)
- 70, as much as this?

At the end of the senat, Lym must take in be studying
- why not to make a pause? (1 Miakis, Lymsleia)
- Heard, then will studying?

Promenade in city (no point)


Palace of Sol-Falena. The evening
If more than 10 points Lyons, It swears to protect the Prince though it arrive


Towards Stormfist
Before departure. Ferid speaks about sacred games
- yes, father
- I do not understand very well

On the harbour. Kyle gets worried
- Yes thank you. (1 point Kyle)
- You get worried too much.

In the boat, Lyons says that the queen is nice.
- wholly (1 point Lyons, Sialeeds)
-. ........

After the attack of the lizard. Gizel asks if this goes
- Yes, they go thank you very much
- you nearly killed us

The evening on the boat.
- this seems to me shady to me also (1 Sialeeds, Georg)
- I doubt that he prepares all this (1 point Lyons)

Arrived Stormfist
Gizel offers either to go to have a rest, or to go to work
- I thank you
- I prefer working without waiting.

Stormfist, visits of the arena
They are going to see the gladiators. Of what thinks the Prince of their condition of imprisonment.
- it is vile... (1 Lyons, Sialeeds, Shoon)
-. ...........

There is a gladiator am hurt and wail. The reaction of the Prince.
- it is necessary to show it to a doctor! (1 Lyons, Sialeeds, Shoon)
-. ...........

Meeting with Euram in the arena, he calls the prince "elder brother".
- "elder brother"? (1 point Euram)
- If you say it, small brother. // (French retort has no sense! the literal translation of Japanese is: I do not remember having a small brother. it is distinctly more consistent)

Gizel speaks to use the rune Sun. Agreed.
- No, not really (1 point Lyons, Sialeeds)
-. I am not sure.


City of Stormfist
A shady person follows the Prince. (Shoon). He says " it is not of what you think "
- On the contrary!
- How you are called? (1 point Shoon)

I have a doubt on which of these retorts bring back a point....
In the inn, Shoon tells that the gladiators heard people of Weapon.
- They should go to have a quick look. (1 point Shoon)
- it was perhaps your imagination.
Where then the following
- They should go to investigate (1 point Shoon)
- I think that they should there réflechir

One come back search Sialeeds. It declined the offer of meal of Gizel
- Why to have made this?
- Anyway, that's good luck. (1 point Sialeeds)

Tunnels of Stormfist
Shoon speaks about his family and that he cannot leave the gladiators by fear of retaliation.
-. in .......... (1 point Lyons, Shoon)
- .On should hurry up

In the room of the gladiators, they hear voices. (no influence)
Follow the spies or capture Zegai (no influence)

Zegai is captured and they discover that he is of Weapon. Euram says that he knew about nothing
-. ..........
- I believe you. (1 point Euram)

Lyons wonders if this definitely finished finally
- Yes, they made well I think (of 1 point Georg)
- I am not sure there... (1 point Lyons)

Sacred Games - opening
The adversary of the prince is Shoon
- Go to it slowly, sorry?
- Do not keep your blows. (1 point Shoon)

If they lose duel, Lyons asks if they are hurt.
- everything goes well (1 point Lyons)
- I lost
then, there is another retort, but I do not succeed in translating ^^ and my brother did not lose against shoon ^^...
-????? (1 point Lyons, Miakis, Lymsleia)
-?????

If they win, Lym off-loads (no influence) thrown into a panic
- I did not know it
- euh, lym there is anybody?

Lym finds it difficult to support battles (I have a doubt on that one)
- go to have a rest in your room
- you should become stronger (1 point Lym? not on)

Meetings in Stormfist.
Gavaya proposes to Lyons
- No but this goes not (1 Lyons)
-. .......

Dongo. In stormfist, the nurses force it back at the entrance
- Let us let it enter (1 point Dongo, Lyons)
- they can make nothing



City of Stormfist-Belcoot am encircled with a menacing group
- be going to give a hand him (1 point Lyons)
- let us wait to see what is going to take place

Belcoot thanks us. (no influence)
Marina invites us to the meal (no influence)

Marina helps Belcoot to lie down
- Help need?
- Edge the good then. (1 point Marinaded)

Debate in the evening by coming back. any influences

Arena of Stormfist.
Whom they prefer between Gizel and Belcoot?
- Gizel
- Belcoot (1 point Lymsleia)

Suite of sacred games.
The day before final. They are going to see Belcoot and they learn that Marina was taken away
- Let us tell the sentries
- They could take responsibility for it ourselves (1 point Lyons, Georg, Sialeeds, Belcoot)

The manager and the manager asks us to save Marina
- They take responsibility for it (1 point Lyons, Belcoot)
- They will make of our the best

Rescue of Marina (no influence)

In the evening in the inn, Marina stands
- Yours, you are awakened...
- What you make standing so late? (1 point Marinaded)

Marina thanks us
it is good
- you should thank Belcoot (1 point Marina)

Georg stands in the rez-de-chaussé
- No
- What you make standing? (1 point Georg)

In the morning, Lyons am bashed up well when it comes to awaken the Prince
- But what arrived at you?
- ah, I believe knowledge.... (1 point Lyons)

The Prince missed breakfast
- That's true? Check, oh well... (1 point Lyons)
- Why you did not awaken me?

Arrived at the arena. They encourage Belcoot.
- good chance
- They will soon be brother both. (1 point Belcoot)

Final of sacred games
Childerich wants to hit of favour (attention, restricted time)
-. ........
- Stop! (1 point Lyons, Sialeeds, Georg, Miakis, Galleon, Belcoot)

It is shady. They are going to see Zegai in the cell....
-. I do not believe you
- Why you did not say it before. (1 point Zegai)

Sialeeds speaks about hanky-panky of Gizel... By speaking to Zegai, he tells be relinquished to Die.
- I would not allow it (1 point Zegai)
-. .........

Report to the queen, it behaves strangely.....
-. .......
- Mother! (1 point Lyons, Sialeeds)

Before leaving for Sol-Falena the following day, they can go to discuss with....
Shoon (animal box of the gladiator)
-. yes (1 point Shoon)
- grieved, I cannot speak about it.

- Marina and Belcoot. Any répose gives 1 point Marinaded, Belcoot.

Departure for Lunas
On soil-falena, Lym enters the room
- Good morning Lym (1 point Lym)
- eh, avoid coming back just like that!

The queen asks to accompany Lym
- Yes mother. (1 point lym)
- But they do not have time to be lost.

Before leaving for Lunas. If they are going to see Zegai imprisoned in the donjon:
- I do not know (1 point Zegai)
- More for a long time, I hope.

Meeting with Jeanne in the store of Rune. She asks us what they want
- a rune... (1 point Jeanne)
- excuse us...

Eastern palace.
A woman in apparait blackwoman in the room
-... Whom are you? (1 point Lym)
-. yet (1 point Zerase)

Detour by Raftfleet (no influence)

Lunas
Arrived at Lunas and reception of Isato
- Desolate of trouble. (1 point Isato)
- Yours? these ears...

Haswar receives the Prince and Lym then takes Lym to get ready. They intend to speak about the war of succession and they leave join Lym. Lyons is in the traine
- you come Lyons? (1 point Lyons)
- Lyons, you remain icic

Haswar and Lymsleia begin the ceremony. Lym asks a first time if the prince wants to look, then a second time.
- absolutely not (1 point Lyons, Lym, Isato)
-. in .......... (1 point Georg, Sialeeds, Miakis, Haswar)

If they chose the second answer
- Lyons does not participate?
- then, I tease (1 point Lyons)

People are entered in a prohibited zone. Isato wants to go alone there
- they also come (1 point Lyons, Georg, Isato)
- including

If they chose the second answer. You are on?
- In fact, let us go to it (1 point Lyons, Georg)
- this will go

In the forest, Capture of Logg and Lun. They bring them back to Lunas.
- It let us let them / leave Even if is forbidden, it's all right (1 point Logg, Lun)
- it is necessary to punish them séverement / It is forbidden (1 point Isato)



Return to Sol-Falena.
Night attack.
- I me anxious for Lym and Mother (1 point Sialeeds)
- Let us run away!

Kyle and Zegai come to rescue. Lyons wants to run away right away
-. including (1 point Lyons, Kyle)
- I want to save Mother and Lym. (1 point Sialeeds)

Georg arrives and announces the death of the parents
- And Lym? (1 point Lym)
-. including

If they chose the first answer. Miakis and Galleon is in charge of it...
- No, it is necessary to save Lym! (1 point Lym)
-. check

If they choose the first answer (save Lym)
- You do not get worried for Lym, you? (1 point Lym)
-. including


Escape in Lunas.
The prince is driven to his room
- Lyons also, you should have a rest (1 point Lyons)
- I would like to be alone.

In the morning, they ask the prince if he could have a rest
- yes, I believe.
- And Lyons? (1 point Lyons, Haswar)

Drill of Lunas. Isato must go back
- They want you to accompany us (1 point Isato)
- one entrust you Haswar

Haud Village.
Boz says that he comes to save us
- Understood, thank you (1 point Boz)
- I am wary.

Zegai must leave
- Malgrè everything, comes with us (1 point Zegai)
- thank you for everything.


Arrived to Barows.
Luserina drives us to our room.
- this goes well, thank you (1 point Luserina)
-. ............

Lyons speaks about its past in Nether Gate and asks if they can again trust in her.
- Hollowing-out (1 point Lyons)
- Nothing knows me about it.


First Battle

Raftfleet.
Lun and Logg lend us strong hand.
- One does not try to save you
- Understood, thank you (1 point Logg, Lun)

Lordlake.
debate with Talgeyl
- please become our ally
- can we help you? (1 point Talgeyl)

Go to search Lucretia
Dwarf Camp. Gunde takes us in Agate prison
- Thank you
- You come with us? (1 point Gunde)

Escape of Lucrétia. Having beaten Cius and Lelei. Lyons offers to leave its weapon
- Lyons, no.
- You want my weapon also? (1 point Lyons, Lelei)

Lucrétia warns the hero that she can betray it
-. ......
- Please (1 point Lucretia, Cius, Lelei)

Second battle
After win, in Raftfleet, everybody gives an applause to the prince.
-?????? (I do not know any more)
- It is thanks to Lucretia (1 point Lucretia)


INQUIRY
Back in Rainwall. They must make make an inquiry by Oboro. IMPORTANT, one of the surest means to have points Oboro! It is necessary to follow it in its inquiry!! For this, to entrust case to Oboro, then to go to the inn to speak to Norden which soule in the bar. By going out, they go Shigure and Sagiri, and they hide while Norden goes out. Sagiri and Shigure want to follow it.
- Good chance
- I come with you-> to choose this answer.

After a stage, Oboro joins us.
- I let you be besides in charge
- I would like to stay until the end. (1 oboro point, Sagiri)

The mouse of Oboro found they follow it up to the manor above
- A mouse which works for you?
- Then, this man is in the manor?! (1 point Oboro)

return to the agency
- Occupy you besides
- In the point where I follow by it,I continue-> choose this answer.

They get changed and they retort follow Norden. In the bar:
- it is necessary that they speak
- then, it is good

They are going to discuss in the agency. Oboro wants to take Norden someplace.
- Must they take it - low? (1 point Oboro)
- I have no idea of it.

Men of Barows come to "receive " us in our return of Lordlake
- Give Them a good lesson (1 point Oboro, Sagiri, Shigure, Norden)
- They should leave.

Rainwall
Just before the third battle, they make a court-martial in the room and Lucrétia offers a plan to discredit Salum.
- I cannot make him this. (1 point Luserina)
- Let us go about things so, it is needed. (1 point Sialeeds, Lucretia)

Third battle.

Having recupéré dawn rune, they go out from Barows. Right at the bottom from the city, they meet the mercenaries.
- I am sorry for you...
- And if we hired you? (1 point Wilhelm, Mueller)


Having left Barows. They go to Raftfleet.
- Let us be more made of ally.
- Let us be going to save Lordlake! (1 point Raja, Kisara, Lyons, Sialeeds, Lucretia, Luserina, Boz)

New costume of the Prince Raftfleet dépalce and. By going out, they meet Rahal and Roog
- Thank you and good chance.
- Wait, fight with us (1 point Roog, Rahal, Spear, Flail)

Lordlake.
The prince speaks to Talgeyl by arriving at Lordlake.
- Oh, far from me such idea...
- No! this suspicion deshonorent you (1 point Talgeyl)

Toma wants to come with us.
- No, it is dangerous
- Readily (1 point Toma)

Beaver Lodge. Maroon wants to come with us.
- What do you think of Toma of it? (1 point Toma)
- With big pleasure. (1 point Maroon)


By going out from Fuwalafuwalu. they cross Lucretia who asks us how is that takes place.
- excellement
- this would have been able to be better. (1 point Lucretia)

Lucrétia asks us to go to the ceras lake.
- We leave within an hour. (1 point Lucretia)
- And you, whom do you intend to make?

Decline of Ceras
In the lake Ceras. Zweig wants to see the rune
- Here is. (1 point Zweig)
- And why therefore?

Lorelai outbraves us in duel
- I occupy me (1 point Lorelai) there
- Please Lyons.

Lorelai asks if she can come with us.
- It does not belong to me to decide on it. (1 point Zweig)
- No problem, follow us (1 point Lorelai)

By going out, they meet Viki
- Euh, they are rather impatient...
- this should be possible (1 point Viki)

Raftfleet
Lucretia wants to open gates
- It is an absolutely brilliant idea!
- They cannot go about things so! (1 point Raja, Kisara, Lyons, Maroon)

Fourth battle.

Lake of Ceras
In the gates of Ceras, they meet Lorelai, which want to come with us.
- it is good (1 point Lorelai)
- If, hushed up frighten us.

HQ
quatrièmé floor, Zerase offers his help.
- Thank you, it is very kind to you (1 point Zerase)
- we do not need you


Lelcar. They go to the home of Orok. In the entrance, they flatten some nurses.
- Good idea. (1 point Kyle)
- not, let us go back on our steps

Zahak attacks the city.
- That to make...
- No, it is necessary to protect Lelcar! (1 point Kyle, Lelei, Volga, Wasil)

The Fifth Battle

Lelei makes his report to Lucretia and apologizes
- Lelei very well reacted (1 point Lelei)
- I am not persuaded, me there...


Sand
Roy outbraves the prince
- It agrees. (1 point Roy, Faylen, Faylon)
- No

Win of the prince. Roy is ready to be killed...
- if it is what you want..
- I would not kill you! (1 point Roy, Faylen, Faylon)

Back to Solis
They demasque Euram.
- it was few things
- I only wanted to restore my honour (1 point Dinn, Roy, Faylen, Faylon)

Roy asks to let leave Faylen and Faylon
- Agreed (1 point Roy, Faylen, Faylon)
- Let us let them leave.

HQ
Luserina apologizes for his brother
- You made nothing of evil
- begin therefore by smiling! (1 point Luserina)

Nirva Island
They meet Skald
- delighted (1 point Skald, Bernadette)
- how you know?

By going up in the tower, before arriving above
- I also come (1 point Georg, Bernadette)
- we count on you, Lyons (1 point Lyons)

Skald gives us the Help of Bernadette
- Ah, thank you (1 point Skald, Bernadette)
- I cannot make this

Sixth battle-Doraat

Meet Miakis
- You do not go.... (1 point Miakis)
- Join us (1 point Lyons)

In the HQ, to Go to save Lym?
- Yes, they make it (1 point Lyons, Miakis)
-??????? (1 point Sialeeds)

Seventh battle

Galleon intervenes before the queen.
- Let us through
- I would kill you if it is needed it! (1 point Galleon)

HQ.
After events, Zweig offer to go in drill of Dusk
- Perhaps...
- I want to go to investigate (1 point Zweig)

Lucretia wants to prevent the Prince from going in drill of Dusk
- You are right, I was égoiste. (1 point Lucretia)
- I would go though you can say.

Galleon wants to leave
- Come to fight with us (1 point Galleon, Miakis)
- No, they should not force it.

Drill of Dusk
They meet Killey which want to come with us
- Hollowing-out, this do not upset us (1 point Killey)
- One not you connait not.

HQ
Godwins and Weapon attack Estrise, Doraat and Sand all at once.
- What is plan? (1 point Lucretia)
- Quickly let us send reinforcements! (1 point Boz, Dinn)

Cavern of the Dwarfs
They accuse us of having killed the Dwarfs.
- it is not us (1 point Wabon)
- by the sun, it is not us.

They discover that the dwarfs were killed by Nether gate.
- Let us leave in front of.
- It is necessary to go to help the Dwarfs (1 point Gunde, Wabon)

Wabon brings us to the forest
- Thank you for help! (1 wabon point)
- Why you help us....

Eighth / ninth Battle in parrallèle

----------------------If they choose to escape the HQ
Gordius
Nick wants to come with us in the cavern.
- Of course. (1 point Nick)
- not, it is too dangerous.

Tenth battle

--------------------If they choose to stay in the HQ
Battle Eleven / Twelve

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Battle 13 and 14 in parrallèle
If they are going to fight against Weapon with Sand. Maha left Jidan
-????????? (1 point Dinn)
- Get ready to die.

HQ
Shula wants to meet us...
- Be going to meet it (1 point Lucretia)
- What would you make Lucrétia?

Yashuna
Meeting with Shula, Sharmista and Nifsara
- It is a piege of Weapon (1 point Lelei, Cius)
- It is rather intriguing. (1 point Shula, Sharmista, Nifsara)

They want to join us.
- I trust in them (1 point Shula, Sharmista, Nifsara)
- To delay me in Weapon? Never!

Battle 15

Battle 16/17

Lunas.
Haswar asks if they remember why Moons is a sacred earth.
- Of course (1 point Haswar)
- euh....

Ruins Sindaar
Lyons wants to confront Dolph
- No, I make it
-..... Including, but pays attention (1 point Lyons)

The End

Other likeness points with recruitable characters


Gavaya in stormfist. It proposes to Lyons.
- No but this goes not! (1 Lyons)
-. .......

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Norma / Ernst
Tower of magic in Stormfist. Georg thinks that there is a knack.
- Yes, I also think
- I have no impression (1 point Lyons)

They search a magician.
- I do not know it.
- Hushed up know it, Lyons? (1 point Norma, Ernst)

Levi wants Norma and Ernst to come to the chateau
- With pleasure (1 point Ernst, Norma, Levi)
- Since when you give order of?

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Meeting with Jeanne. She asks us what they want
- a rune... (1 point Jeanne)
- excuse us...

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RANK OBORO
???????? not on. If they enter the agency before Lucretia asks to enqueter. Sagiri asks if they are for affair there.
- No, I do not follow for affair (1 point Sagiri)
- I shall go past again later.

In rainwall, before the third battle: They must make make an inquiry by Oboro on barows. IMPORTANT, one of the surest means to have points Oboro! It is necessary to follow it in its inquiry!! For this, to entrust case to Oboro, then to go to the inn to speak to Norden which soule in the bar.
By going out, they go Shigure and Sagiri, and they hide while Norden goes out. Sagiri and Shigure want to follow it.
- Good chance
- I come with you-> to choose this answer.

After a stage, Oboro joins us.
- I let you be besides in charge
- I would like to stay until the end. (1 oboro point, Sagiri)

The mouse of Oboro found they follow it up to the manor above
- A mouse which works for you?
- Then, this man is in the manor?! (1 point Oboro)

return to the agency
- Occupy you besides
- In the point where I follow by it, I continue-> choose this answer.

They get changed and they retort follow Norden. In the bar:
- it is necessary that they speak
- then, it is good

They are going to discuss in the agency. Oboro wants to take Norden someplace.
- Must they take it - low? (1 point Oboro)
- I have no idea of it.

Men of Barows come to "receive " us in our return of Lordlake
- Give Them a good lesson (1 point Oboro, Sagiri, Shigure, Norden)
- They should leave.


as soon as they belong to raftleet: it is always necessary to choose retort: Reach with us (1 point Oboro)

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Cornelio. They exterminate his Doremi in Haud. It is angry.
- A member of the orchestra?
- Excuse me (1 point Cornelio)

meeting with the doremi outside
- They kill the doremi
- They recruit the doremi (1 point Cornelio)

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Josephine wants to come with us to Haud
- Yes, why not (1 point Josephine)
- It is going to bother us.

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Zegai in the forest of Lunas, to have told After him what they become...
-. greeting.
- They still need your help. (1 point Zegai)

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Murad (very important!)
- (the first retort changes places according to)
- Come to help us / they really need you (1 point Murad)


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Sorensen, Babbage, Read. In Estrise, they ask Babbage to block the swivel bridge.
Read want to come also.
- It is not a game
- I think that yes (1 Read point)

In the swivel bridge
- how they stop it. (1 point Sorensen, Babbage)
- What they break in first? (1 Read point)

back in the workshop, Read requests who they are.
- .Euh, I am the Prince..
- Do not occupy you of me (1 Read point)

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They liberate Takamu of the prison
- Run away in the shelter
- come with us (1 point Takamu)

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Dongo.
In stormfist, the nurses force it back at the entrance
- Let us let it enter (1 point Dongo, Lyons)
- they can make nothing

in the mine, dongo want to forge weapon still
- Then, if you came with us? (1 point Dongo)
- they will come back

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Murad (very important!)
- (the first retort changes places according to)
- Come to help us / they really need you (1 point Murad)

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Retso-Shun min. In the inn of Raftfleet, a customer does not finish his dish.
- Finished your plate
- I would eat what stays. (1 point Shunmin, Retso)

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Urda. She wants to come with us to Lunas.
- it is good (1 point Urda)
- Why?

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Belcoot / marina.
In Yashuna, they speak to Belcoot
- What brings you here?
- Where is Marina? (1 point Belcoot)

In the inn, debate with Marina
- Come with us (1 point Belcoot)
- Good courage.

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Isabel-Mathias
They save us from an attack
- Thanks a lot (1 point Isabel, Mathias)
- I would have been able to take responsibility for it all alone

Letter of Euram. Luserina
- this really seems to me shady. (1 Luserina)
- Who knows?

After meeting with Euram.
- you want to fight with us? (1 point Isabel, Mathias)
-. ouais.

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Chisato. After the show of puppets
- It is you who make all her voices?
- your simulations are amazing! (1 point Chisato)

- You are really amazing (1 point Chisato)
- You can prove it to us now?

after hostage's catch of the pirates.
- it is too much dangeureux. (1 point Bernadette)
- you will succeed in helping us?

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Nakula
It is awakened.
- What I must make?
- Have a rest (1 point Nakula)

Oboro révele that they are of Nether Gate
- They are of my quoting now (1 point Sagiri, Oboro, Lyons, Shigure)
- They are not your true enemies. (1 point Nakula)

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Faylon / Faylen
- You come to help us (1 point Faylon, Faylen)
- Good courage

If Roy died instead of the Prince.
-. including (1 point Faylen)
- this will go? (1 point Faylon)

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Miroon. Baths are in dry
- Hollowing-out, they are going to help (1 point Miroon, Muroon)
- baths are important, but....

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Meroon / Moroon
- thank you (1 point Maroon, Miroon, Moroon, Meroon)
- nothing oblige you there

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Mohsen
Think of buying more than 50 000 potch of armour to him before fire. Just after the fire of its store, they can speak to him to lelcar
- Grieved, they could nothing make (1 point Mohsen) <choose that one!
- This goes?

Mohsen is desespéré
- Keep courage.
- And if you come to open a boutique to my chateau? (1 mohsen point)

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Yahr / Nelis
Yahr wants to go up in the boat of the prince
- I am not sure there...
- Yes, be our guests (1 point Yahr, Nelis)

New attack of the monster. Retort on time restricted
-. ..........
- The cannon with rune! (1 point Bernadette, Yahr, Nelis)

The cannon with rune...
- They also want one.
- They must destroy it (1 point Bernadette, Yahr, Nelis)

return to Nirva.
- in bientot, I hope.
- Why you do not come to Falena (1 point Yahr)

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Cathari
She wants them to take it see Lucrétia (Not sure of this retort)
-???????
- Of course. (1 point Cathari)

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Killey
At the time of the release of Killey. The solar rune?
- It is in the family for a long time. (1 point Killey)
-??????????

In the HQ, Killey wants to see the sealed room
- I do not want him in my chateau.
- very well.... (1 Killey)

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Norma / Ernst
Tower of magic in Stormfist. Georg thinks that there is a knack.
- Yes, I also think
- I have no impression (1 point Lyons)

They search a magician
- I do not know it.
- Hushed up know it, Lyons? (1 point Norma, Ernst)

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Haswar
She wants to come to help us.
-. thank you (1 point Haswar, Isato)
-????????

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Haleth and Logg discuss in the entrepot of Herschville.
- Thank you then (1 point Haleth)
- It is not risked?

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Nick (If they must go to search them in Gordius to recruit them. I never have it make out a will)
-?????? Ax?
- all alone? (1 point Nick, Ax, Yoran)

The nurses (?)
-?????????????????
- They came to search Nick (1 point Nick, Ax, Yoran)

Nick
- I veindrais see you.
- You do not come to the chateau? (1 point Nick)

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Re: "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby Mushra » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:13 am

So...It's very confusing isn't it? XD I just re-started SV a little while a go, so i will take the liberty to correct the errors at the same time i see each respectively scene on this tutorial, when i finish the game i will come up with it in this same topic.

Btw, we know that Lym and Lyon points are useful for some scenes...But what about the others? We get to see more scenes too? Like in the night before Sol-Falena attack you know, i only got Georg and Gavaya scene there, it pissed me off >.< Maybe these points are related to that night?
And now, a little tribute to Kyle x)

" . . . You're kidding me. You DIDN'T look?! WHY THE HELL NOT?! That
was a once in a lifetime opportunity! I can't believe you passed that up!
Damn! I gotta say, you just let down every man in Falena. . ."

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Re: [Guide] "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby Juan » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:46 pm

Can you get all the scenes in one playthrough?

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Re: [Guide] "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby KFCrispy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:06 pm

wow i never read Wicked_Rune_Bearer's post lol.. i didn't even know about the 2 possible non-108 endings!

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Re: [Guide] "Liking" points and effects (SPOILERS)

Postby Punkaiser » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:32 am

I've finished the guide , you guys can take a look at the link below. Please take note that i translate it directly so the scripts arent exactly the same as appear in game, but I try to make sure you can understand the meaning of dialogues and situations. Feel free to inform me if you think there's anything wrong.

Liking points guide


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