[FAQ] New Game+ details

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[FAQ] New Game+ details

Postby KFCrispy » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:18 pm

ah, so there's a new game+ feature.. i'm beggining to feel this is going to be a trend. what carries over? any bonuses such as extra recruitables or alternate paths/endings you can unlock in a new game+?
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Stuff that carries over:
-Play time
-Hero name
-Money
-Total shared pool of items
-Items in warehouse
-Formation, skill books
-Shared SP(not personal SP, so you may want to convert personal SP to shared SP before beating the game)
-Complete set of goods at headquarter's shops
-All handed over window, voice, sound sets, old books, food(Fish, field items that were left in menu will remain)
*Chess pieces collected in Eggbert's minigame

※Put lots of goodies in the warehouse for an easy second play. Sun set equipment doesn't carry over.

Stuff that doesn't carry over:


-Castle, army name
-Those major story runes
-108 stars and doremi spirits
-Character level
-Personal SP
-Skill rank
-Weapon level
-Equipped stuff during game clear time
-Total # of enemies killed, damage dealt, HP recovered
-Sun set equipment
-Important story items
-Unappraised stuff
-Trade items
-Items that appear when making profit by trade(like wine, sake, goldwork)
-Blacksmith upgrade limit
-Teleportable locations
-Comment Box
-Oboro investigations
-Preserved fish
-Chuck's field items
-Character affinity rating


Bonuses

-Additions to certain events and conversations(details under investigation)
-L2 or x dash(doesn't matter if you got Cathari or not in last playthrough)
-Even if you don't recruit the doremi spirits, Cornelio's music appreciation is possible. (doesn't matter if you recruited doremi spirits or not in previous playthrough)
-Georg and Zweig can participate in final boss battle
-In those treasure chests where sets, books used to be and you got them, the contents are replaced by 10,000 potch.

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Postby dragonmasterx » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:57 pm

It seems like money, skill&formations books, total shared pool of skill points, stuff in immediate inventory, and I'm guessing all the goodies in the warehouse are still here.

I'm concerned about whether attached runes carried over. My Kyle had a flowing rune attached for the final boss battle. Will that flowing rune re-appear in the warehouse? That's what I need to find out. I recall in Suikoden IV, you had to unequip runes to carry over into new game+.

Oh yea, there's also the new dash feature by holding down the 'x' button. No more qualms about loading time with this.

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Postby KoyuRedd » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:27 pm

dragonmasterx wrote:Oh yea, there's also the new dash feature by holding down the 'x' button. No more qualms about loading time with this.

Care to explain?
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Postby dragonmasterx » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:04 pm

Dash, as in move faster in towns; think of Suikoden IV's dash.

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Postby HolyPaladin » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:21 pm

dragonmasterx wrote:No more qualms about loading time with this.

I think this is the part that he's asking about. I would like to know what you meant by this, too.
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Postby dragonmasterx » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:31 pm

Just a personal opinion. Loading time doesn't bother me so much now thanks to the dash.

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Postby Raww Le Klueze » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:44 pm

It's too bad the damn thing is only available in New Game+, it sure is useful.

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Postby HolyPaladin » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:04 pm

Raww Le Klueze wrote:It's too bad the damn thing is only available in New Game+, it sure is useful.

I believe Cathari allows for dashing in the 1st Game. All you have to do is keep her in your party.

Also, here are the New Game+ details from this JPN site. I got the JPN details instead of the Babelfish translation because I figured a translation would make more grammatical sense then jusy copying & pasting the Babelfish translation. Also, it seems that most people who know Japanese around here have already finished the game, so the New Game+ details in Japanese won't be very spoiling. If none of the translator feel like translating, I'll just post the Babelfish translation; just let me know by posting in this topic.

2週目特典

ゲームをクリアするとクリアデータをセーブする事が可能です。
このデータをロードすると特典付きの2週目がプレイ可能になります。
持ち越されるデータ他特典は以下の通りです。

引き継がれる物

* プレイ時間(次プレイはクリア時間から開始・加算)
* 主人公の名前
* 所持金
* 共有アイテム(アイテム欄に残ったまま、一部不可)
* 倉庫に預けてあるアイテム(倉庫に保管されたまま、一部不可)
* 兵法書(陣形)と伝承(スキル)と心得(武術・学術)
* 共有SP(個人のSPは持ち越されない。残したいならクリア前に共有SPに変換しておく事)
* 本拠地の各店の品揃え
* 前回プレイまでに渡した窓・声・音セット、古い本、食材(いけす・畑の品目もメニューに並んだ分は残る)
* エグバートのミニゲームで獲得した駒


※2週目楽に進めたいなら倉庫に使える封印球(補助系全般、上位五行、破魔、蒼き門、断罪も引き継ぐ)や防具やアクセサリー(太陽セット以外全て引き継ぐ)を一定量入れておく事をお勧めします。

引き継がれない物

* 軍・城の名前
* 黎明・黄昏の紋章
* 108星&ドレミの精
* 全キャラのLV
* 全キャラの個人SP
* 全キャラのスキルランク(心得による武術・学術スキル以外)
* 全キャラの武器LV
* 全キャラのクリア時に装備していた防具・アクセサリー・紋章
* 全キャラの敵を倒した累計数・敵に与えた累計ダメージ・味方を回復した累計数
* 太陽の兜・鎧・グローブ・ブーツ・指輪(アイテム欄、倉庫から消える)
* シナリオやイベントに関わった大事な物(瞬きの手鏡、水滸図、イワノフの絵、各種鍛冶屋用ハンマー、怪しい本、変な魚、等)
* 未鑑定の壷・絵画・像・盆栽(鑑定済みの骨董品は全て残る。?〜のみアイテム欄、倉庫から消える)
* 交易品全般(アイテム欄、倉庫から消える)
* 交易で利益を上げると出現する品目(酒やワイン、金細工等)
* 鍛冶屋の鍛えられる上限
* テレポートで行ける場所
* 目安箱の手紙
* オボロに依頼した身上調査
* いけすの魚
* ツンデレの鏡であるゲッシュ様が精魂を込めて丹念に耕し、その100万$の笑顔で軍を勝利に導いたと言っても過言ではないツンデレ畑の作物
* キャラ同士の愛


その他特典

* 一部イベントや会話に追加(詳細求む)
* L2or×でダッシュ可能(前回プレイでキャザリーを仲間にしてなくてもOK)
* ドレミの精を集めなくてもコルネリオで音楽鑑賞可能(前回プレイでドレミの精を集めてなくてもOK)
* ラスボス戦にゲオルグも参加可能
* 以前のプレイで入手済みの兵法書、伝承、心得、音・声・窓セット、古い本が入っていた宝箱の中身が10000ポッチに変化
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Postby dragonmasterx » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:37 pm

Stuff that carries over:
-Play time
-Hero name
-Money
-Total shared pool of items
-Items in warehouse
-Formation, skill books
-Shared SP(not personal SP, so you may want to convert personal SP to shared SP before beating the game)
-Complette set of goods at headquarter's shops
-All handed over window, voice, sound sets, old books, food(Fish, field items that were left in menu will remain)
*Chess pieces collected in Eggbert's minigame

※Put lots of goodies in the warehouse for an easy second play. Sun set equipment doesn't carry over.

Stuff that doesn't carry over:

-Castle, army name
-Those major story runes
-108 stars and doremi spirits
-Character level
-Personal SP
-Skill rank
-Weapon level
-Equipped stuff during game clear time
-Total # of enemies killed, damage dealt, HP recovered
-Sun set equipment
-Important story items
-Unappraised stuff
-Trade items
-Items that appear when making profit by trade(like wine, sake, goldwork)
-Blacksmith upgrade limit
-Teleportable locations
-Comment Box
-Oboro investigations
-Preserved fish
-Gesh's field items
-Character affinity rating


Bonuses
-Additions to certain events and conversations(details under investigation)
-L2 or x dash(doesn't matter if you got Kyazarii or not in last playthrough)
-Even if you don't recruit the doremi spirits, Cornelio's music appreciation is possible. (doesn't matter if you recruited doremi spirits or not in previous playthrough)
-Georg can participate in final boss battle
-In those treasure chests where sets, books used to be and you got them, the contents are replaced by 10,000 potch.
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Postby KFCrispy » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:09 pm

the investigations don't carry over??? you have to do ALLLLLL of them all over again? of all the things in a new game+ i'd want to carry over... this is probably the only one really necessary in order to avoid spending 200+ hrs at the end of the game completing it.. bah, i've never completed investigations in all my suikodens -_-

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Postby son_michael » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:29 pm

then we are gonna have to put top priority on making a investigations section for suikoden 5, this way we can always come back to suiko source and and get investigation info when we need it

im sure the administrators will agree with me on this 1

right KF?

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Postby dragonmasterx » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:30 pm

Yea, that would be nice. I'll be looking forward to your guide on investigations, son_michael. :D

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Postby Jowy Atreides » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:45 pm

OK, let's split this up.
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Postby son_michael » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:51 pm

dragonmasterx wrote:Yea, that would be nice. I'll be looking forward to your guide on investigations, son_michael. :D


I would be happy to do it after I beat the game :D it would be nice for me to contribute something to suiko source

I agree with jowy, we should organize a bunch of people to do this

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Postby Angelis_Taleria » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:08 pm

You know I'm in. I've got nothing better to do for Spring Break.

It'd also be great if we could get a few people to do the investigations in the japanese version of the game as well to check and see if everything is correct and what not.
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