KFCrispy wrote:did you happen to check how standing on the opposite terrain affects it?
I didn't. I assume it's 0.65, but whatever it is, the formula remains the same. I mean the terrain mod is still a total damage multiplier, whatever the different multipliers are.
KFCrispy wrote:i have to see why my original ratio mod numbers are different.. and seeing it decrease in your tests from 1.2 to 1.15 as you increase STR is odd.
It would be nice if you could check it. I made a test for randomization (it's about +/-20), and took it into account. But still, Lalacle for example had a Str/EnPDf ratio of slightly over 2, but her ratio mod was still 1.15, and it was even closer to 1.1 than to 1.2. It's indeed odd, maybe it's supposed to be a balancing factor, idk.
KFCrispy wrote:i don't see a point of including pdf/2 in the formula [...] too confusing!
Yeah, in this thread I could have worked with annotations, but I used the formula needed to calculate from my calculator: viewtopic.php?f=40&t=14047
In a calculator, of course you need the warrior rune effect separate from the Str stat.
For beginners, this would surely be confusing as you say. But I think players who've played a bit know already that if a stat is written in blue, there's some modifier going on. I don't think the first thing total beginners look up would be the physical damage calculation. And even if they do, they would read 2 lines, then think "wtf is battle_lust_mod?!", then leave.
KFCrispy wrote:you'd have to also include another variable for STR from equipment since we are now using "base STR" as a separate value.
No, I just need to rename it from Atk_bonus_equipment into Str_bonus_equipment (equipment increases Str, not only Atk, similar to warrior rune effect). It's already there. I should also switch it with Weapon_Atk. Luckily all this doesn't affect the result of the formula. Only Ogre Mail is said to increase Atk... do you know how it works?
EDIT: Ok, I've made the above mentioned changes in my "formula post" and made annotations to make it more beginner-friendly.