gildedtalon wrote:If you are playing on emulator, S rank in Obel Ruins is easy
Antimatzist wrote:Mother Earth was, to me, possibly the hardest level to S Rank, because these Earth bugs are hard. But in the end, it's like any other level, you have to play it very cleverly.
Th meat is a random drop, stealing will only net you (the very good) elemental mirror.
Yeah, using owls you can go to the end of the levels quickly, but in your first three or four complete runs, you should try and dig in all setups.
Sasarai10 wrote:Never played on it...but how is it easy?gildedtalon wrote:If you are playing on emulator, S rank in Obel Ruins is easy
Antimatzist wrote:I'd have to check the official guide for dragon's meat drop rates, but it's probably something like 40% or so.
Diamonds can be stolen from the golems. Using the protective Earth magic, his fist missile cannot do any damage.
I found the Elemental chambers to be the easiest to S rank; if nobody dies, you pretty much get the S rank, even with treasure hunting.
gildedtalon wrote:Trap the last enemy or elemental on all sides(there are 4 sides)
Now summon your low level characters and have them gain lots of experience by spreading their elemental beads all the time for a lot of turns, each person needs to stay on their own element.
Now save state once everything is set, what you need to do is check every character's turn what rank that you get, if it's not S rank, load state and keep spreading element with those low level characters
NOTE: If you end up getting B rank, there is no cure for this, it means there is another requirement that you fail to meet so you will have to retry the whole battle
Antimatzist wrote:Diamonds can be stolen from the golems.
Sasarai10 wrote:I don't remember the others since it's been years I had to play them, so for now I remember only Earth Chamber. Those Spider Beetles are really dangerous and even faster than your characters.
Any good party suggestions? I have everyone except Lino, Roget, Ornela, Busk and the 4 mercenaries. I was thinking about going with a full Wind Element party this time, or should I mix it up with some Earth-element? By the way all my characters are pretty much leveled up (everyone above Level 22-23), with Lazlo being the highest (Level 31).
Sasarai10 wrote:Are enemies based on Kyril's level (Level 26) or average Level of your characters?
Sasarai10 wrote:I think in order to get S Rank you must have everyone alive at the end, defeat all enemies, gain lots of experience and finish the battle as quick as possible.
Wolkendrache wrote:Iirc you’ll get a Prime Gold Ore the first time, and a diamond the second time. So you need to steal from each golem 2 times to get diamonds.
A wind innate party is a good idea. I had Ameria put wind terrain under the beetle on the left, and Lazlo finish it right away (Ameria must be faster than Lazlo). Add Kika, Seneca, Nalleo (and maybe Dario if you give him a Windspun Armor), then maybe Corselia and Flare (at least one more mage).
Take care: if you overlevel your characters now, you’ll have a hard time getting the excellent S rank item from Graska Palace!
Enemy levels in the Obel Ruins are based on a certain number of your highest-level characters. If all your characters available were Lv20, then the enemies there will have around Lv20-22. If 20 characters are Lv10 and other 20 characters are Lv20, then the enemies would still have Lv20-22. Let’s say you get the mercenaries now (all Lv30), then the enemies’ levels will suddenly shoot to around Lv26. I don’t know the exact way it works, but it has something to do with your highest level characters.
It’s definitely not the average of ALL of your characters! And Kyril is definitely not the only factor!
I don’t think you need to defeat all enemies. You must deal a high average damage, must not get too much damage, must get a lot of total Exp, must have ended a certain number of turns on positive terrain, and must not exceed a certain number of total turns. The latter is the least strict one. In fact, if you’re too fast, then you risk to not meet the positive terrain requirement, so you need to lay some more positive terrain before ending the stage. This is what gildedtalon means, but it sounds more like you didn’t meet any of the requirements.
No problem, the Obel S rank prizes have no use, just wait until you understand the game more and try again with better strategies.
Sasarai10 wrote:- I'm pretty sure Diamonds can be dropped from Golems. I dropped once or twice a Diamond after defeating them.
Sasarai10 wrote:- No Lazlo is faster in my case, even if Ameria rides a Kangaron. Seneca? Isn't she Lightning element? What about Paula and Selma? As for Flare she's an archer but still I believe archers are good here. Also Double Sword Unite Attack can take out a Beetle with one hit. And if you are lucky you might kill two of them in one turn.
Sasarai10 wrote:- Actually I do better than I did 3-3.5 years ago. But still the fact that characters can die so easily it's disgusting.
Wolkendrache wrote:Lazlo is faster mainly because he's overleveled. Seneca is wind element by nature. Paula is good but can't deal and much damage nor take a lot, Selma isn't too good. I mostly use Flare in combination with Corselia. Unfortunately Flare lacks Extra Move.
Don't give up. It needs some playthroughs to really get the hang of it.
gildedtalon wrote:Seneca is always Wind innate when I play
Wolkendrache wrote:Sounds like Seneca is wearing a thunder god garb.
Corselia is better than katarina. She has incredible high evasion and higher magic stat.
Sasarai10 wrote:Really? Sure she has higher magic stats but still she's more fragile.
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