[Guide] Unites and Good Will Relationships

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[Guide] Unites and Good Will Relationships

Postby 108 Stars X » Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:59 pm

for a complete list of Good Will partners, scroll down: viewtopic.php?f=40&p=54421#p54421
for an organized Unites Guide, see http://suikosource.com/games/gst/guides/unites.php

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Postby Mintalia » Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:45 pm

If you're talking about all three of them being mounted on Kangacorns, that's a different Unite. Any 3 characters on Kangacorns can use a Unite attack (not sure if they need Good Will or not). The same thing goes with Giant Owls. Rachel, Lino En Kuldes, and Eugene's Unite is different, and I think they all need to be on foot (although I'm certain it needs to be learned.

I'm at work right now, so I don't have my guide with me, but I'll post all the Unite attacks when I get home. Some of the ones I remember are:

Millay - Trishtan - Jeremy
Jeane - Roget - Maxine - Simeon
Hervey - Sigurd
Jean - Katarina
Keneth - Katarina
Lazlo - Kyril
Lazlo - Kika
Tal - Keneth - Paula - Jewel
Akaghi - Mizuki - Kate
Axel - Mitsuba - Selma
Mitsuba - Reinhold - Jeremy
Lazlo - Snowe


EDIT: Ok, here's the full list of Unites!

Double Leader Attack - Kyril, Lazlo
Pirate Attack - Hervey, Sigurd
True Friends Attack - Lazlo, Snowe
Family Attack - Flare, Lino En Kuldes
Double Sword Attack - Kika, Lazlo
Cohort Attack - Andarc, Seneca
Ninja Attack - Akaghi, Mizuki
Princess Attack - Corselia, Flare
Pirate Family Attack - Dario, Nalleo
Mounted Troop Attack - Any 3 characters on Kangacorns
New Ninja Attack - Akaghi, Kate, Mizuki
Love Love Attack - Charlemagne, Reinbach
Flying Troop Attack - Any 3 characters on Giant Owls
Meow Attack - Champo, Nalkul, Noah
Sister Attack - Busk, Ornela
Adonis Attack - Andarc, Coop, Roget
Barrage Attack - Flare, Frederica, Seneca
New Knight Attack - Katarina, Keneth
Allure Attack - Jeane, Kika, Ornela
Spear Attack - Eugene, Lino En Kuldes, Rachel
Ice Crush Attack - Corselia, Kyril
Nymph Attack - Corselia, Millay, Rita
Intolerable Attack - Jeremy, Mitsuba, Reinhold
Giant Sword Attack - Axel, Mitsuba, Selma
Obel Soldier Attack - Jeremy, Millay, Trishtan
Flame Array - Jeane, Katarina
Dying Wish Attack - Andarc, Kyril, Seneca
Thunder God - Maxine, Simeon
Old Knight Attack - Jewel, Keneth, Paula, Tal
Fierce Wind Fangs - Pablo, Simeon
Pirate Band Attack - Dario, Hervey, Nalleo, Sigurd
Water Dragon - Maxine, Roget
Sorcerer Attack - Jeane, Maxine, Roget, Simeon
Scorched Earth - Katarina, Pablo

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Postby killey » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:06 pm

Is that list set in stone?, because it means that Gretchen, Karl, Lalacle, Wendel and the Mercenaries don't have a unite. And that's really annoying that some characters miss out.

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Postby Mintalia » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:44 pm

According to the guide, those are all the unites. It also lists each character's Good Will partners, and certain people (Ameria, Wendel, and Lalacle) have no Good Will with anyone at all. The Mercenaries also have Good Will with each other, but that's it (Red, Blue, and Yellow all have Good Will with the Leader, not with each other).

It's not like it's the first game that's left out some characters when it came to unites... I mean, Wendel didn't have any Unites in IV, either. At least not that I know of...

If anyone finds any others not listed, then the guide may be leaving stuff out (which is very possible), but as far as I know, those are the only unites.

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Postby dragonmasterx » Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:51 pm

Sorcerer Attack - Jeane, Maxine, Roget, Simeon


Is that proper English? Aren't female types called sorceresses? I think they should've translated it as Magician Attack.

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Postby Angelis_Taleria » Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:15 pm

Magician Attack would've been better since the attack contains both male and female participants.
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Postby 108 Stars X » Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:55 pm

Is there any known list of Good-Will partners who don't have unites? (ex. Flare and Lazo talk to each other and gain good will, but do not get a unite.)

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Postby Mintalia » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:30 pm

Here you go:

Akaghi - Mizuki, Kate (Lino En Kuldes, Flare)
Ameria - <None>
Andarc - Coop, Corselia, Kyril, Roget, Seneca (Walter)
Axel - Mitsuba, Selma
Blue Mercenary - (Mercenary Leader)
Busk - Corselia, Ornela
Carrie - Yu
Cedric - Rachel
Champo - Nalkul, Noah
Charlemagne - Reinbach
Coop - Andarc, Roget (Corselia)
Corselia - Andarc, Busk, Flare, Kyril, Millay, Ornela, Rita, Seneca
Dario - Kika, Hervey, Nalleo, Sigurd
Ema - Gary
Eugene - Lino En Kuldes, Rachel
Flare - Corselia, Frederica, Lazlo, Lino En Kuldes, Millay, Seneca
Frederica - Flare, Seneca
Gary - Ema
Gretchen - (Katarina, Keneth)
Hervey - Dario, Kika, Nalleo, Sigurd
Jeane - Katarina, Kika, Maxine, Ornela, Roget, Simeon
Jeremy - Millay, Mitsuba, Reinhold, Trishtan (Flare, Lino En Kuldes)
Jewel - Keneth, Lazlo, Paula, Snowe, Tal
Karl - (Corselia, Kyril)
Katarina - Jeane, Keneth, Pablo
Kate - Akaghi, Mizuki
Keneth - Jewel, Katarina, Lazlo, Paula, Snowe, Tal
Kika - Dario, Hervey, Jeane, Lazlo, Nalleo, Ornela, Sigurd
Kyril - Andarc, Corselia, Lazlo, Seneca
Lalacle - <None>
Lazlo - Flare, Jewel, Keneth, Kika, Kyril, Lino En Kuldes, Paula, Snowe, Tal
Lino En Kuldes - Eugene, Flare, Lazlo, Rachel
Maxine - Jeane, Roget, Simeon
Mercenary Leader - (Blue Mercenary, Red Mercenary, Yellow Mercenary)
Millay - Corselia, Flare, Jeremy, Rita, Trishtan (Lino En Kuldes)
Mitsuba - Axel, Jeremy, Reinhold, Selma
Mizuki - Akaghi, Kate (Flare, Lino En Kuldes)
Nalkul - Champo, Noah
Nalleo - Dario, Kika, Hervey, Sigurd
Noah - Champo, Nalkul, Rene, Rita
Ornela - Busk, Corselia, Jeane, Kika
Pablo - Katarina, Simeon
Paula - Jewel, Keneth, Lazlo, Selma, Snowe, Tal
Rachel - Cedric, Eugene, Lino En Kuldes
Red Mercenary - (Mercenary Leader)
Reinbach - Charlemagne (Kyril)
Reinhold - Jeremy, Mitsuba
Rene - Noah, Rita
Rita - Corselia, Millay, Noah, Rene
Roget - Andarc, Coop, Jeane, Maxine, Simeon
Selma - Axel, Mitsuba, Paula
Seneca - Andarc, Corselia, Flare, Frederica, Kyril (Walter)
Sigurd - Dario, Hervey, Kika, Nalleo
Simeon - Jeane, Maxine, Pablo, Roget
Snowe - Jewel, Keneth, Lazlo, Paula, Tal
Tal - Jewel, Keneth, Lazlo, Paula, Snowe
Trishtan - Jeremy, Millay (Flare, Lino En Kuldes)
Wendel - <None>
Yellow Mercenary - (Mercenary Leader)
Yu - Carrie


I think that some Good Will people are one-sided... for example, Akaghi has Good will towards Flare, but she doesn't have any for him. Not sure on this, though...


Edit: I added brackets to those Good Will relationship without Talks. Also, these ones are not mutual. -p

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Postby MatildaWhiteKnightLeader » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:32 pm

"Double Sword Attack - Kika, Lazlo"

The brady games guide which I have says Kyril and Lazlo. Can you confirm it's a misprint in the guide?

Since this attack was used in suikoden 4. I would also have to think its Lazlo and Kika.
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Postby Angelis_Taleria » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:00 am

That is a misprint. However, Kyril and Lazlo do have a unite called W Leader Attack or something like that.
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Postby Chris_Lightfellow » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:12 am

It's called the Double Leader Attack.
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Postby patapi » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:39 am

MatildaWhiteKnightLeader wrote:"Double Sword Attack - Kika, Lazlo"

The brady games guide which I have says Kyril and Lazlo. Can you confirm it's a misprint in the guide?

Since this attack was used in suikoden 4. I would also have to think its Lazlo and Kika.


They printed Hero's name as "Lazlo"?

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Postby MatildaWhiteKnightLeader » Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:41 pm

No sorry, they have him has " Hero (Suikoden IV) ". The name Lazlo is not used in the guide at all.

Just wanted a confirmation on a glaring misprint in the guide. thanks
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Postby patapi » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:14 am

In that case, thanks.

I thought that I would finally find an instance where Konami would actually use one of these novel-only names outside the novelizations, but alas.

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Having trouble...

Postby Felicitycat » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:23 am

I'm having trouble with Combo attacks. Or maybe it's something I missed, or something that's not explained anywhere.

I line my characters up to do a combo attack, and the first time I can do it (maybe), but they can't do it again.

How long do the characters have to rest before they can do their attack again?

And what is "delay time until usable?" Does it refer to the time that the characters line up to the time they can use the attack? Or is it the time from the last combo to the next time they can use it again?

Please answer, I'm really enjoying this game!
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