[Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Sasarai10 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:19 pm

gildedtalon wrote:Yeah, make sure all skill levels for your characters are maxed before going to new game+


I finished intro battle, in a New Game+ and I see characters can only have 3 skills. Although they are A/S.

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Antimatzist » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:56 am

The number of skills you can equip depend on the level of the character. For every 10 levels, they get one additional skill slot.

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Sasarai10 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:12 am

Antimatzist wrote:The number of skills you can equip depend on the level of the character. For every 10 levels, they get one additional skill slot.


Sometimes it's 5 isn't it?
I remember getting one at 20 then 25 then 30.
Has anybody ever managed to get Star Earrings by Rita by the way?
Those elemental balls are slower than Kyril and they mess up last turn.

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Wolkendrache » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:51 am

Sasarai10 wrote:Well problem here is those Skeletons who use fists. Their counter attack can be fatal. And Magic Sword attack is 100% successful.

All weapon rune attacks have 100% hit chance. At higher levels, only Rita and Charlemagne do not have attacks with 100% hit chance, so don’t attack Skeleton Fists with them.
Antimatzist wrote:Wolkendrache, you're awesome for your thorough research. Now after many years I think we can conclude the "how do you get S ranks?" chapter, haha.

Thanks! I’m just thinking many of us got S ranks before the detailed stage requirements and the formula was available here. All you need to know is:
- deal as much damage as you can
- avoid getting damaged as much as you can
- get a lot of Exp
- stay on your terrain often
- try to finish battles quickly
If you’re good, you’ll most likely get S ranks. So in the end, the most important things when playing games like this are getting used to the mechanics, understanding the enemies’ AI, and finally developing strategies for battles. That’s why topics about character setups (skills, runes, equipment) and battle strategies are arguably more helpful. If you don’t understand the mechanics, you’ll have a hard time meeting the requirements for S rank, even if you know them. In those cases where you know you have performed greatly in battle but only got rank A, then this topic will tell you in detail why.
Antimatzist wrote:The EXP requirement is often killing it.

Speaking of Exp… in those monster hunting areas you can get S rank any time. That’s only the theory. The enemies there either have fixed levels or they max out at some point (I don’t know which one). If your characters exceed these levels, your chance of getting S rank is gone. Just get S rank as soon as possible.
Sasarai10 wrote:Has anybody ever managed to get Star Earrings by Rita by the way?

I got them, took me 3-4 attempts. They are not worth the effort, imo.
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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Sasarai10 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:42 am

Aha thanks. I didn't know about Rita and Charlemagne.

But how can you make Kyril finish last? Like if you have 30 Fire Tiles and Rita has 34 Lightning Tiles, it would be a perfect chance to lay 5 Fire Tiles on a non-elemental terrain area. But unfortunately after Kyril makes his move either Rita or those balls can make a move as well.

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Antimatzist » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:48 am

It depends a bit on luck. I got them in my S Rank run on my first try, but never before. It's really not worth it, but a nice to have, I guess.

From my research, it's 1 Skill slot every 10 levels, so you max out at level 50. At least that's how I think it's working. And maximum skill level is something like one new skill elvel every 10 recruits.

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Sasarai10 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:08 pm

Antimatzist wrote:It depends a bit on luck. I got them in my S Rank run on my first try, but never before. It's really not worth it, but a nice to have, I guess.

From my research, it's 1 Skill slot every 10 levels, so you max out at level 50. At least that's how I think it's working. And maximum skill level is something like one new skill elvel every 10 recruits.



S Rank???? Wasn't supposed to be 1 Tile more?

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Wolkendrache » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:28 pm

Win by more than 15 tiles -> S rank
Win by exactly 1 tile -> bonus item: Star Earrings
S rank run doesn't mean you attempt S rank in every battle. Once per map is enough, as it usually means getting all S rank items. I'm sure Antimatzist got S rank in Razril already in that previous story battle.
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Postby Sasarai10 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:41 pm

Wolkendrache wrote:Win by more than 15 tiles -> S rank
Win by exactly 1 tile -> bonus item: Star Earrings
S rank run doesn't mean you attempt S rank in every battle. Once per map is enough, as it usually means getting all S rank items. I'm sure Antimatzist got S rank in Razril already in that previous story battle.


Oh yeah in the battle against Furballs. It was easy as it is even in a fresh game. But I wish to get Star Earrings by hitting S, than try to win by 1 Tile. Sounds easier.

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Antimatzist » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:37 pm

Yeah, the first Razril battle is easy to S Rank so I didn't try in Rita's battle (in a previous normal game, I got a S Rak in her battle, though, but of course not the Earrings). What was the bonus again, healing per round and a bit of PDF?

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Re: [Guide] Stage Guide - S Rank criteria and Bonus Rewards

Postby Sasarai10 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:19 pm

Antimatzist wrote:Yeah, the first Razril battle is easy to S Rank so I didn't try in Rita's battle (in a previous normal game, I got a S Rak in her battle, though, but of course not the Earrings). What was the bonus again, healing per round and a bit of PDF?


I finally got it after 20 tries or so. And it's +1 PDF. I know it's useless and all...but honestly I'd even collect a turd if it was a unique item in Suikoden. :lol:


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