Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby gildedtalon » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:32 am

Lalacle is good if you have Hand of God and levels her Bullseye
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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Wolkendrache » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:11 pm

Lv38 Stats

Lalacle – Karl
Atk: 169 – 147
PDf: 41 – 39
Skl: 70 – 42
MDf: 54 – 15
Mag: 69 – 16
Spd: 63 – 58
Nat. Mov: 6 – 5
Extra Move: yes – no
Godspeed: yes – no
HP: 432 – 349
Rune slots: 3 – 2
Spells: 6/4/2 – 5/2/1

I rest my case.
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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Sasarai10 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:44 am

Why Karl's skills go down to C when you recruit him? I remember they were A in my last playthrough.

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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Wolkendrache » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:32 am

That happens with characters who you'll meet as enemy or NPC before they join you. And it only applies to the skills that are active during that first encounter.
I forgot whether it's the case with all of those characters, as there are quite a lot of them.
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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Sasarai10 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:59 pm

Wolkendrache wrote:That happens with characters who you'll meet as enemy or NPC before they join you. And it only applies to the skills that are active during that first encounter.
I forgot whether it's the case with all of those characters, as there are quite a lot of them.


No for example Mitsuba's skills were still A. Although I think it happens with Roget.

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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Wolkendrache » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:36 pm

Can you make notes of who is affected by this in your next playthrough and post the results? Thanks! :P
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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Sasarai10 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:27 pm

Wolkendrache wrote:Can you make notes of who is affected by this in your next playthrough and post the results? Thanks! :P



I can remember already. Definitely not story based characters.

Also there are some exceptions like Lazlo. His Battle Lust when he's NPC is like D or E. But when I recruit him, he's back to S.

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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Antimatzist » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:09 am

Maybe it has to do with Skills they already come equipped with in the first playthrough? Do we have a list with initally equpped skills?

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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby KFCrispy » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:27 am

the skill grades are never downgraded going into New Game+. if they are NPCs in a map though, they have the skills and levels assigned to them for the specific battle.

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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Sasarai10 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:00 am

KFCrispy wrote:the skill grades are never downgraded going into New Game+. if they are NPCs in a map though, they have the skills and levels assigned to them for the specific battle.


Yeah I noticed. It's only for Roget and Karl.

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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby KFCrispy » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:28 pm

when you fight Sigurd, he doesn't have your trained skills on him.

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Re: Karl and Lalacle are top tier characters?

Postby Sasarai10 » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:48 am

KFCrispy wrote:when you fight Sigurd, he doesn't have your trained skills on him.


No way, otherwise he'd be harder. When he joins he has his trained skills from previous playthrough though.


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