108 Stars page errors

[WaterMoon]

Not really errors per-se, as mistranslation. As a linguist (primarily chinese, working on japanese), I've studied The Water Margin, and figured since there's a section on who had that star in the books, I'd give the proper chinese to english translations of the stars and their names, for those who are interested. (This also helps overcome some of the problems in the translation from chinese to japanese to english where you have two Tenyu or two Tenki stars, though not all. Not unless I threw in chinese tones too, heh.) Due to inability to distinguish between a normal "u" (that's supposed to be the letter, not the word, but it autocorrects, which is cool, but counterproductive in this rare case, lol) and one with an umlaut above it, I'll use a "v", which is the norm for computer typing of pinyin.

Tiankui Star - Song Jiang, the Timely Rain
Tiangang Star - Lu Junyi, the Jade Unicorn
Tianji Star - Wu Yong, the Wizard
Tianxian Star - Gongsun Sheng, the Dragon in Clouds
Tianyong Star - Guan Sheng, the Big Halberd
Tianxiong Star - Lin Chong, the Panther Head
Tianmeng Star - Qin Ming, the Thunderbolt
Tianwei Star - Huyan Zhuo, the Two Rods
Tianying Star - Hua Rong, the Lesser Li Guang
Tiangui Star - Chai Jin, the Small Whirlwind
Tianfu Star - Li Ying, the Heaven-Soaring Eagle
Tianman Star - Zhu Tong, the Beautiful Beard
Tiangu Star - Sagacious Lu, the Tattooed Monk
Tianshang Star - Wu Song, the Pilgrim
Tianli Star - Dong Ping, General Two Spears
Tianjie Star - Zhang Qin, the Featherless Arrow
Tian'an Star - Yang Zhi, the Blue-Faced Beast
Tianyou Star - Xu Ning, the Metal Lancer
Tiankong Star - Suo Chao, the Urgent Vanguard
Tiansu Star -Dai Zong, the Marvelous Traveler
Tianyi Star - Liu Tang, the Red-Haired Demon
Tiansha Star - Li Kui, the Black Whirlwind
Tianwei Star - Shi Jin, the Nine Dragons
Tianjiu Star - Mu Hong, the Unrestrained
Tiantui Star - Lei Heng, the Winged Tiger
Tianshou Star - Li Jun, the Turbulent River Dragon
Tianjian Star - Ruan the Second, the Ferocious Giant
Tianjing Star - Zhang Heng, the Boat Flame
Tianzui Star - Ruan the Fifth, the Recklessly Rash
Tainsun Star - Zhang Shun, the White Streak in the Waves
Tianbai Star - Ruan the Seventh, the Devil Incarnate
Tianlao Star - Yang Xiong, the Pallid
Tianhui Star - Shi Xiu, the Rash
Tianbao Star - Xie Zhen, the Two-Headed Snake
Tianku Star - Xie Bao, the Twin-Tailed Scorpion
Tianqiao Star - Yan Qing, the Prodigy
Dikui Star - Zhu Wu, the Miraculous Strategist
Disha Star - Huang Xin, the Suppressor of Three Mountains
Diyong Star - Sun Li, the Sickly General
Dijie Star - Xuan Zan, the Ugly Son-in-Law
Dixiong Star - Hao Siwen, the Wild Dog
Diwei Star - Han Tao, the Ever-Victorious General
Diying Star - Peng Qi, the Eyes of Heaven General
Diqi Star - Shan Tinggui, the Water General
Dimeng Star - Wei Dingguo, the Fire General
Diwen Star - Xiao Rang, the Master Hand
Dizheng Star - Pei Xuan, the Ironclad Virtue
Dikuo Star - Ou Peng, the Golden Wings Brushing the Clouds
Dihe Star - Deng Fei, the Fiery-Eyed Lion
Diqiang Star - Yan Shun, the Elegant Tiger
Di'an Star - Yang Lin, the Elegant Panther
Dizhou Star - Ling Zhen, the Heaven Shaking Thunder
Dihui Star - Jiang Jing, the Magic Calculator
Dizuo Star - Lv Fang, the Little Duke
Diyou Star - Guo Sheng, the Second Rengui
Diling Star - An Daoquan, the Skilled Doctor
Dishou Star - Huangpu Duan, the Purple Beard
Diwei Star - Wang Ying, the Stumpy Tiger
Dihui Star - Hu Sanniang, Ten Feet of Steel
Dibao Star - Bao Xu, the God of Death
Diran Star - Fan Rui, the Demon King Who Roils the World
Dichang Star - Kong Ming, the Comet
Dikuang Star - Kong Liang, the Flaming Star
Difei Star - Xiang Chong, the Eight-Armed Nezha
Dizou Star - Li Gun, the Flying Divinity
Diqiao Star - Jin Dajian, the Jade-Armed Craftsman
Diming Star - Ma Lin, the Elfin Flutist
Dijin Star - Tong Wei, the Dragon from the Cave
Ditui Star - Tong Meng, the River Churning Clam
Diman Star - Meng Kang, the Jade Flagpole
Disui Star - Hou Jian, the Long-Armed Ape
Dizhou Star - Chen Da, the Gorge-Leaping Tiger
Diyin Star - Yang Chun, the White-Spotted Snake
Diyi Star - Zheng Tianshou, the Fair-Faced Gentleman
Dili Star - Tao Zongwang, the Nine-Tailed Tortoise
Dijun Star - Song Qing, the Iron Fan
Dile Star - Yue He, the Iron Throat
Dijie Star - Gong Wang, the Flowery-Necked Tiger
Disu Star - Ding Desun, the Arrow-Struck Tiger
Dizhen Star - Mu Chun, the Slightly Restrained
Diji Star - Cao Zheng, the Demon Carver
Dimo Star - Song Wan, the Guardian of the Clouds
Diyao Star - Du Qian, the Skyscraper
Diyou Star - Xue Yong, the Sick Tiger
Difu Star - Shi En, the Golden-Eyed Tiger Cub
Dipi Star - Li Zhong, the Tiger-Fighting General
Dikong Star - Zhou Tong, the Little King
Digu Star - Tang Long, the Gold-Coin Spotted Leopard
Diquan Star - Du Xing, the Demon Face
Diduan Star -Zou Yuan, the Dragon from the Forest
Dijiao Star - Zou Run, the One-Horned Dragon
Diqiu Star - Zhu Gui, the Dry-Land Crocodile
Dizang Star - Zhu Fu, the Smiling Tiger
Diping Star - Cai Fu, the Iron Arm
Disun Star - Cai Qing, the Single Blossom
Dinu Star - Li Li, the Hell's Summoner
Dicha Star - Li Yun, the Black-Eyed Tiger
Di'e Star - Jiao Ting, the Merciless
Dichou Star - Shi Yong, the Stone General
Dishu Star - Sun Xin, the Junior General
Diyin Star - Mistress Gu, the Tigress
Dixing Star - Zhang Qing, the Vegetable Gardener
Dizhuang Star - Sun Erniang, the Witch
Dilie Star - Wang Dingliu, the Lightning
Dijian Star - Yu Baosi, the Spirit of the Dangerous Road
Dihao Star - Bai Sheng, the Daylight Rat
Dizei Star - Shi Qian, the Flea on the Drum
Digou Star - Duan Jingzhu, the Golden Dog

As I've been typing this up, I came to realize what you have on the site isn't wrong, it's likely Wade Giles for the names and such. So this is just a more commonly used way of seeing the names and their proper translations, and stars. Just for anyone interested, you know.

[patapi]

That is an awesome list, thank you. Now those names finally make more sense, when transliterated into the same style as many other Chinese translations. But then, I've always find Wade-Giles to appear rather strange, compared to Pinyin.

[Vextor]

Thanks for the work. It's good to have a pinyin version. However, to say that your translation is the "correct" one would be a mistake, because there are more than few things that can be disputed (mainly because translations vary for the meaning of the stars). For example, you translated 病尉遅 as "The sickly general," but the character 病 used to also mean "equivalent to" back when Shui Hu Zhuan was edited. 尉遅 refers to the Tang dynatsy general Wei Chi Gong.

[WaterMoon]

That's a very good point as well Sars. I'm thinking I might add the actual chinese characters to the list here when I get the chance. We're busy with lots of testing the next two months here, validating our skills as linguists and all that. Yay military!!! But yeah, I'd hafta look them up, and it would take me a lot of time to type them in (I think it was like 3-4 hours for me to properly do this whole list), though I still suggest reading the book in its various forms (yes, there's about 6 different versions in total). For those that are confused, the major differences are how many chapters are in the book and what language style is used. There's 72 chapter versions, 100 chapter versions, versions in a more poetic language, versions in a more down to earthy feel, like a bandit themselves might write, and so on.