Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

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Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

Postby Wolkendrache » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:32 am

The recruitment guide page says "Complete lists of all recruitable characters, and how to recruit them, in the order that they can be recruited." I was recruiting all characters as early as possible, and my list has some differences, also revealing some mistakes of this site's current list.

1 Kyril
2 Andarc
3 Seneca
4 Rita# (after 4)
5 Akaghi (in Obel 9)
6 Mizuki (in Obel 9)
7 Kika (in Obel 9)
8 Trishtan (in Obel 9)
9 Flare (in Obel 9)
10 Maxine# (after leaving Obel in 9)
11 Pablo# (after leaving Obel in 9)
12 Rene# (after leaving Obel in 9)
13 Eugene# (after leaving Obel in 9)
14 Hervey# / Nalleo# (after 9)
15 Sigurd# / Dario# (after 9)
16 Gary (beginning of 11)
17 Ema (beginning of 11)
18 Ameria (end of 11)
19 Axel (end of 11)
20 Carrie (end of 11)
21 Millay (end of 11)
22 Jeremy (end of 11)
23 Gretchen (end of 11)
24 Wendel (end of 11)
25 Cedric# (after 12)
26 Rachel# (after 12)
27 Katarina# (after 12, QR C)
28 Keneth# (after 12, QR C)
29 Tal# (after 12)
30 Corselia (end of 13)
31 Nalleo# / Hervey# (after 13)
32 Dario# / Sigurd# (after 13)
33 Karl# (after 13, QR B)
34 Coop (end of 14)
35 Noah# (after 14)
36 Nalkul# (after 14)
37 Champo# (after 14)
38 Reinbach# (after 14)
39 Charlemagne# (after 14)
40 Yu# (after 14)
41 Mitsuba# (after 14)
42 Reinhold# (after 14)
43 Mercenary Leader# (QR S)
44 Red Mercenary# (QR S)
45 Blue Mercenary# (QR S)
46 Yellow Mercenary# (QR S)
47 Simeon (end of 15)
48 Jeane# (after 15, QR A)
49 Frederica (beginning of 16)
50 Paula (end of 16)
51 Jewel (end of 16)
52 Selma (end of 16)
53 Kate# (after 16)
54 Lino (beginning of battle 18)
55 Roget# (18 battle)
56 Ornela (end of 18)
57 Busk (end of 18)
58 Lalacle (NG+ only, beginning of 5)
59 Lazlo (only if SIV data loaded, after 11)
60 Snowe (only if SIV data loaded, after 11)

QR = quest rank
# = optional character

- characters from Cedric to Tal should be placed before Corselia
- Karl should be placed between Corselia and Coop
- Mitsuba, Reinhold, and the mercenaries should be placed to the block from Nalkul to Yu
- ...followed by Simeon; in the recruitment description replace "chapter 16" with "chapter 15" (same mistake in Mitsuba's description)
- only then is it possible to recruit Jeane, because you need access to Haruna, which means after chapter 15
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Re: Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

Postby Celes » Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:16 pm

The order of recruitement is highly debateable for every game, so I rather removed the pretentiousness from the Recruitment Guides overview which claims them for being sorted.

Fixed Simeons description as well.

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Re: Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

Postby Wolkendrache » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:09 pm

Whether you claim it or not: As a matter of fact most recruitment guides list the characters (correctly) by order of recruitment or earliest opportunity to recruit, whereas the Tactics recruitment guide looks like a fail, because it has too few mistakes to suggest that there’s no particular order.
Why would we handle it differently, especially when we now have all the information needed available?
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Re: Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

Postby Antimatzist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:18 am

Yes, especially because of its chapter structure, the recruitment time can easily be compared.

Btw, what happens if you don't recruit one of the pirate duos in Chapter 10? Can you get them in 11 and the other duo still in 13?

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Re: Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

Postby Wolkendrache » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:53 am

Last time I forgot to recruit the first duo in 10, got them in 11 or 12 but could still get the second duo at 13. Because of the different days of recruitment they can't be mutually exclusive, so if you don't recruit them until 13, you should then be able to recruit them in a row (you only need to rest or sail until the required day), but I'm not 100% on that.
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Re: Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

Postby KFCrispy » Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:59 pm

i've updated the list with your information. i was never sure about the quest rank-based recruits because i purposely didn't do the X & Co ones, which prevented the quest rank from moving up faster. we also had Simeon (ch 15 recruit) after Paula and her gang (ch 16)

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Re: Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

Postby Wolkendrache » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:15 pm

Nice! Btw, my newest list including recruitment information can be found here:
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=14160
But it's ok the way it is now, I've only seen 1 mistake: You don't need to battle through all floors on water's day to recruit the mercenaries, you will be brought there automatically upon entering the Obel ruins on water's day (same for the rage dragon egg quest, just enter on fire's day).
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Re: Suikoden Tactics Recruitment Guide corrections

Postby KFCrispy » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:47 am

do you even have to wait for the specific day to enter?
just tested recruiting Karl - you don't need to save the children after all :twisted: , but losing just 1 will make you fail the quest. :evil:


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