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Inaccurate secret?

Postby Punkaiser » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:06 pm

http://www.suikosource.com/games/gs2/secrets/
Extra Flowing and Mother Earth Runes
Speak with the Rune Master at Gregminster and buy all runes that appear in Rare Finds. If there are no rare finds, then just select 'Quit'. Observe the cabinet behind the Rune Master and then speak with him again. There is a 60 to 70 percent chance that the Rare Finds will open up. Try this once during every trip to Gregminster.

I don't think this is correct, first off it goes against the rarefind mechanic we knew, and moreover, despite doubting it much I still tried for half an hour and nothing happened.

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby gildedtalon » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:17 pm

I never got it to work either, maybe there's some info missing?
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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Punkaiser » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:32 pm

Also, the Armor swapping glitch doesnt work either.

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Raww Le Klueze » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:39 pm

It works but only once per trip. If it doesn't trigger you can't just try again.
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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Celes » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:59 pm

I can confirm this. Got an extra rune per trip now and then.

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby wataru14 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:55 pm

Same here. I doubt it's a 60 to 70% chance, though.

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Punkaiser » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:26 pm

^ Do you mean it seems lower than 60%? Or higher?

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby wataru14 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:29 pm

Much much lower

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Punkaiser » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:14 pm

Understood, so that's why I couldn't get anything out of it.

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Jocky » Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:41 am

Hi there, just thought I could maybe shed some light on this fact. I've tried this about 40 - 50 times now and it works at least half of the time, if not more. The percentage chance of this occurring was thought to be around 60 - 70% and I believe this is almost correct. Now in case I write this out and it doesn't work for everyone else I thought I'd better mention that I'm playing on a PAL format in case its not the same for users of NTSC or JP.

The first time I read this fact I thought it didn't work in my game, but I was doing it wrong, and I believe everyone else is as well. Here is how I was doing it.

1. I talked to the Rune Shop owner in Gregminster.
2. When his menu appeared, sometimes the Rare Finds section was highlighted, sometimes not, as expected.
3. If there was anything to buy, I bought it.
4. If not, or when my purchases were finished, I cancelled myself out of his menu, either by selecting 'Quit' or pressing the cancel button (it doesn't matter which).
5. I ran around to the other side of his desk and observed the cabinet behind him by pressing the X button.
6. I then ran back around the desk and spoke to him again.
7. When the menu popped up nothing had changed.

So after a few attempts, exactly like as described above, I assumed they had corrected this bug for the PAL version of the game and gave up on it. However as I said at the start I was doing it wrong. And I cant believe I didn't realise what the difference was sooner. And you will understand why when I tell you how it should be done. Because the way the instructions have been written isn't totally clear on any site. So here it is.

1. Talk to the Rune Shop owner in Gregminster.
2. When his menu appears, sometimes the Rare Finds section is highlighted, sometimes not, as expected.
3. If there is anything to buy, buy it.
4. If not, or when your purchases are finished, cancel yourself out of his menu, either by selecting 'Quit' or pressing the cancel button (it doesn't matter which).
5. Run around to the other side of his desk.
6. Stand directly behind the Rune Shop owner and press X to talk to him again.
7. 60 - 70% of the time his Rare Finds section will change! If there was something in it before there might not be now, or vice versa, or a different combination of Runes.

Its that simple! For some strange reason I insisted on running back round to the front of the desk before speaking to him again because it felt right. But the glitch happens when you speak to him from behind. You don't have to observe the crate behind him for it to work either. Give it a try and tell me if it works for you too. Cheers. :)

ED* I have only tested this twice so far but it seems that if, for example, you were in the market for a Flowing Rune and you spoke to him from in front of the counter and he only had a Mother Earth Rune and you didn't buy it. If you then ran round to the back of him and spoke to him from there and he had say, 2 Flowing Runes for sale and you bought those. If you then ran round to the front of the counter again and spoke to him from there again, he would still have the original Mother Earth Rune for sale. Effectively giving you 2 shopping lists depending on which direction you speak to him from! I now wish I had tried it with him facing to the left or right before I wrote over my save in case there were 2 more.....

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Celes » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:23 pm

Jocky wrote:Effectively giving you 2 shopping lists depending on which direction you speak to him from!
Great findings! I guess this is exactly the case. Furthermore, it seems the counter is considered as a seperate interaction point. In most shops you cannot go behind the counter.

Added this to the secrets section.

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Jocky » Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:31 pm

Thanks Celes, I'm glad my first post (although I've used this site for years! :P ) was a helpful one. Here's hoping I can be of more use in the future!

Oh and I checked from the left and right and no luck, there are only the 2 shopping list from the counter and the back. But still, with this 1 glitch you can acquire all the Flowing and Mother Earth Runes you will ever need for your whole game in 3 - 4 trips if you're lucky!! It's a shame it's not as easy to get Thunder and Rage Runes!!

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Neclord X » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:30 am

I can't say it "doesn't work" but certainly that shop has "Flowing and Mother Earth Runes" to sell as rarity, I remember it because I expended lot of travels to Gremister just to try that. Until finally happened, although, it appeared totally random.

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Celes » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:39 am

Jocky wrote:It's a shame it's not as easy to get Thunder and Rage Runes!!
To say nothing of Cyclone Runes ... :(

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Re: Inaccurate secret?

Postby Jocky » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:35 am

Ahhhhhhhhh!! It makes sense now. So apart from being sold in Sajah after the Beast Rune fight, the only other place you are given one is from Sarah in Gregminster?! That is a major bummer! I own a copy of the PAL version and I have noticed that there was a fair few corrections made before it was released over here, its just a shame that this wasn't 1 of them!!


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