blinking rune

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:14 pm

I know that, but game wise it is never equipped on him in his rune slot, in the first two, it's always just a regular wind rune. That was my point. That Viki could have a true blinking rune, just not have it show up on her slots because the one she has equipped is definetly not a true rune.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:18 pm

I wasn't really presenting my opinion, I was just giving some facts about Luc that other people over-looked. He said some factually incorrect things about Luc and the True Wind Rune, so I corrected him; I wasn't trying to get in on the discussion.

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:27 am

Jowy Atreides wrote:
Moonbay wrote:And, I could never understand Konami's deal with the True Wind Rune and Luc. Maybe they were still working out the kinks with their storylines, and when 3 came around, they thought "Hey! How about we make him have a True Rune. Not to mention--we'll drive our fans nuts!"
For some reason this wasn't addressed, so I'll talk about it. In the first game, whenever Luc uses his "Wind Rune" to summon the Golem, it should've said "True Wind Rune", based on the original text. In the second game during the battle with Luca, if you wait long enough Yuber and Sasarai's soldiers show up and Luc blows them away with his "True Wind Rune". He's always had the rune, but there are ways to miss the dialogue.

I just played II, does he say "True Wind Rune"?

I know he called upon the Wind Sylphs.

warmaster670 · Post by **warmaster670** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:27 am

i know there was some dialogue there between luc and sasarai, so he might have said true wind

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:06 am

Moonbay wrote:
Jowy Atreides wrote:
Moonbay wrote:And, I could never understand Konami's deal with the True Wind Rune and Luc. Maybe they were still working out the kinks with their storylines, and when 3 came around, they thought "Hey! How about we make him have a True Rune. Not to mention--we'll drive our fans nuts!"
For some reason this wasn't addressed, so I'll talk about it. In the first game, whenever Luc uses his "Wind Rune" to summon the Golem, it should've said "True Wind Rune", based on the original text. In the second game during the battle with Luca, if you wait long enough Yuber and Sasarai's soldiers show up and Luc blows them away with his "True Wind Rune". He's always had the rune, but there are ways to miss the dialogue.
I just played II, does he say "True Wind Rune"?

I know he called upon the Wind Sylphs.

yes, he most certaintly does, I cant find it but I had posted luc's exact words as seen in the game

somewhere on these boards...

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:31 am

Jowy Atreides wrote:I wasn't really presenting my opinion, I was just giving some facts about Luc that other people over-looked. He said some factually incorrect things about Luc and the True Wind Rune, so I corrected him; I wasn't trying to get in on the discussion.

Ummm, just to clarify.....

I'm a girl....

And, I don't recall him ever saying "True Wind Rune" in Suikoden I. Now, I'm going by the translated version, and just the game. I've never read the books, and, I don't understand Japanese--so no imports here.

So, my information may be incorrect, but isn't that how it's presented?

Just like Stallion's True Holy Rune--which it isn't.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:43 am

He was supposed to say True Wind based on the original Japanese, but instead he said "Wind Rune". It was supposed to be mentioned in Suikoden I as well, but it wasn't.

anokosa · Post by **anokosa** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:55 am

and true holy rune is a misprint. it was supposed to say godspeed rune

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:12 am

Moonbay wrote: And, I don't recall him ever saying "True Wind Rune" in Suikoden I.

The mistranslation where he's supposed to say "True", but dosen't, is when he's summoning the golem on Magicians Island.

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:19 am

yea, he clearly mentions that his wnd rune is a true rune, in that fight with sasarai in suikoden 2

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:42 pm

anokosa wrote:and true holy rune is a misprint. it was supposed to say godspeed rune

That was my point.

Suikoden I had a LOT of mistranslations. Kasios is a man--not a woman, and Stallion's Godspeed Rune became the "True Holy Rune."

See--that's all anyone had to say was: mistranslation.

So, why didn't they fix that with "True Holy" in II? Anyone know?

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:59 pm

Probably because no one reported the error, or they used a different translation team; the Godspeed Rune was mistranslated again in Suikoden IV as the True Holy Rune.

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:20 pm

makes me wonder how they discovered the problem in tactics, I was amazed when I saw the god speed skill in tactics

I wonder if they will ever make that translation mistake again

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:51 pm

Jowy Atreides wrote:Probably because no one reported the error, or they used a different translation team; the Godspeed Rune was mistranslated again in Suikoden IV as the True Holy Rune.

Or, Konami probably figured they got themselves into a mess they're not sure how to get out of. They may think to suddenly change the name of the rune to its original name would confuse people.

anokosa · Post by **anokosa** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:08 pm

yea, or they just liked the name 'true holy rune'. i can understand why they could have got it wrong. It's supposed to be godspeed rune, so they may have translated god to holy/true holy.