Besides the true runes is there any other beliefs?

Wicked_Rune_Bearer · Post by **Wicked_Rune_Bearer** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:17 pm

I was thinking True runes isn't considered a religion in suikoden it's considered as fact. So is there a religion I know theres a place the charcters go when they die but do the people believe that or what. Is there a religion in suikoden and if there is is there many of them like varing on location. Like the bird clan in falena.

Karayan_Fighter · Post by **Karayan_Fighter** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:38 pm

Well we know the Zexens believe in a Goddess and the Grasslanders believe in spirits wandering the plains. But I'm not sure bout any other areas.

aydas_arrow · Post by **aydas_arrow** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:43 pm

the people of harmonia see there leader as a demi-god. and also the fact that sassari is called a priest also points to religion.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:24 pm

Yeah, Holy Harmonia is definitely a theocracy.

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:03 pm

Karayan_Fighter wrote:Well we know the Zexens believe in a Goddess

Not to waylay the topic, but what's up with the Zexen's goddess? We see her in the one shrine in Vinay Del and Chris goes to her once and that's it. Is there anything more to it that I missed?

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:28 pm

we see her once, but she is mentioned a few times, in the council meeting they thank there godess, and when they go to make a truce with the grasslanders, luce says something about praising the spirits for this happy event, and salome says"we share the same feelings as you, however we thank our goddess instead"

maybe in a game that takes place after suikoden 3, we can get more info on there goddess

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:31 pm

There's a good chance that these goddesses of Zexen don't even exist.

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:45 am

yeah, thats the most likely scenario, we only saw a statue of there goddess, so she could be something the zexen government made up

Angelis_Taleria · Post by **Angelis_Taleria** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:08 am

Sort of like Christianity. It could be one elaborate fairy tale or something they truly believe in.

MatildaWhiteKnightLeader · Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:43 am

Hey!!! Jesus existed for sure. What he did is another question. But what the hey, I'm fine being morally righteous.

Anyway there's also the Alma Kinan rituals. There's also the Confessions in suikoden 4 with a wanna-be friar.

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:55 am

Angelis_Taleria wrote:Sort of like Christianity. It could be one elaborate fairy tale or something they truly believe in.

the only way you could be a christian is if you believe,faith is the only way to be a christian, there is no christian man or woman that does what they do thinking it might not be true, if you dont believe, your not a christian,your not covered by the blood of jesus

now,lets not get off topic anymore{im sorry, I just wanted to clear that up}

I think the alma kinan women are religious, they seem to have alot of traditions and rituals, which probably explains how there's no men in that village

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:29 am

I'd prefer not to be covered in anyone's blood.

But anyway, why do you think that being a ritualistic society would exclude men from their ranks? Do you think they sacrifice male children at birth or something?

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:58 am

well the alma kinan have no men, so im just speculating that there rituals and beliefs have something to do with it,there's no evidence to support or disprove it so its just speculation on my part

Ezekiel · Post by **Ezekiel** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:23 pm

Also, wasn't Harmonia a "Holy" Kingdom? Plus, as mentioned before, Sasarai was a priest. Maybe words liek holy, priest, etc aren't really religion based in this game, but more of a political base. Who knows? I never stopped to think about religion in the game til now, but pretty interesting stuff. Also, Halec was a barbarian from a tribe....not to stereotype, but people of that kind seem to believe in spirits and such, so I would only assume.

Angelis_Taleria · Post by **Angelis_Taleria** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:41 pm

son_michael wrote: the only way you could be a christian is if you believe,faith is the only way to be a christian, there is no christian man or woman that does what they do thinking it might not be true, if you dont believe, your not a christian,your not covered by the blood of jesus

I was comparing the two in the sense that some people think that christianity is one big fairy tell , where as others truly believe in it. The same could be said for the Zexen Goddess. To Chris, and other Zexens, she could beas real as you and me and what ever else she did/does to become a goddess in their eyes. Or else she could just be a mere fairy tale passed down through the ages, even though Zexen is only 50 years old, to give people hope and have something to believe in rather than actually existing.