Sydonia's power

TrueBlood · Post by **TrueBlood** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:40 pm

In the original Suikoden, Sydonia (the one who is my avatar, in case you have forgotten him!) has a mysterious power of teleportation, which is NOT because of a Rune according to the story, he was simply born with that power. However, it is my theory that this power is connected to a Rune in some way, just not one on his body. I think this power is a mutation of the Blinking Rune, but of course I donâ€™t have any proof.

ViktorFan · Post by **ViktorFan** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:30 am

Sydonia (Tenkoku Star)
Origin: Unknown
Position: Bandit
Events: Gate Rune Wars
Sydonia is one of the heads of the Mt. Seifu Bandits. He is a reclusive fellow who doesn't open his heart to anyone other than Varkas. He apparently has endured some horrible fate in the past and possesses the strange ability of The Art of Far Moving, which allows him to teleport short distances. This power is not due to any rune or magic. Sydonia was found by Varkas when he was still a boy. He was a part of a circus who made money off of Sydonia's disappearing trick. He lived in virtual slavery due to cuffs that allowed a master to summon him at will. After destroying the caravan, Varkas took Sydonia in and removed his cuffs. Since then Sydonia became a loyal friend of Varkas.

This is from the character's list and the ability to teleport short distances is not due to a rune so I don't believe it's a mutation of the Blinking Rune.

Asmodeus Dark · Post by **Asmodeus Dark** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:47 pm

Maybe he is just incredibly fast.... Like Rock Lee

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:17 pm

Nah, it's an ability he's always had for some reason. Even he doesn't know where the ability came from.

kelvingarinkz · Post by **kelvingarinkz** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:36 am

true holy rune ?
or maybe not really 'true' but somewhere around there ?

Post by **Raww Le Klueze** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:29 am

What part of "his power is not due to any rune or magic" is it that confuses you?

TrueBlood · Post by **TrueBlood** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:24 pm

Raww Le Klueze wrote:What part of "his power is not due to any rune or magic" is it that confuses you?

The fact that in the Suikoden world, there is no real magic, only Runes, ditto for special abilities, Runes are the only supernatural things in Suikoden, yes?

And donâ€™t say anything about monsters, they are basically just animals. Even the ones from the WOE.

Post by **Raww Le Klueze** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:42 pm

Runes are the only supernatural things in Suikoden, yes?

No.

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:18 pm

Would you care to elaborate Raww Le Klueze, so that you don't come off as rude and condescending?

Post by **Raww Le Klueze** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:55 am

Werewolves, dragons, Luca Blight, the million worlds, teleportation, Yuber, summoning, Sarah, fortune-telling, Jeane, Kyril, talking ducks, cats, dogs, beavers etc etc.

Werewolves - Lycantrophy is existant in the world of Suikoden, Bob's rune only allows him to stay in human form, it has no bearing on the creation of them. Werewolves are supernatural.

Dragons - Dragons come from the World of Wings and Scales. The Dragon Rune only allows for them to exist outside that world, it has no role in the creation of them. Dragons are supernatural.

Luca Blight - Luca uses an item that is not a rune to give his sword the flame properties, possesses almost supernatural strength despite that he never uses the Beast Rune.

Million Worlds - Self explanatory.

Teleportation - The only teleportation known to be derived from a rune is Blinking. Luc, Yuber, monsters, Sarah etc all uses teleportation that neither looks or acts like Blinking.

Yuber - The official site stated that "whatever he is, he's not human".

Summoning - Luc is able to summon thousands of creatures from the World of Emptiness, using "a technique" taught to him by Leknaat.

Sarah - Sarah is described as a powerful sorceress, she is able to create mirages without the help of a rune and was considered a witch by her home town. The history goes to great length to describe her as someone with inherit magic capabilities, if she was merely extraordinary with runes it would have said so.

Fortune-telling - Leknaat, Hellion, Deborah all possess the ability to predict the future without resorting to rune use.

Jeane - Jeane is confirmed to not be holding any True Rune, and even if her entire family looks the same that's pretty damn supernatural in itself.

Kyril - Kyril does not age like normal people, being the off-spring of a human and sub-human from the world of emptiness and all.

Sub-Human Species - There are Kobolds, Nekobolds, Ducks, Beavers, Lizards, Wingers and probably more that have no mention of being the result of a rune.

There are plenty of supernatural things in Suikoden that can't be ascribed to any runes. The games also go to great length to difference between a "Magician" and a mere "Rune user".

The fact that abilities fall under the "rune" command is a game-engine limitation.

And let's not forget the 108 Stars of Destiny, the primary ingredient in Suikoden.

And that's not even touching the basic fact that when the creators say "it's not due to any rune or magic" it's pretty much as close to gospel as you can get and that alone is proof enough that not everything supernatural is derived from a rune.

TrueBlood · Post by **TrueBlood** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:55 pm

See? I told you so.

But, seriously, if magic is a real factor in the Suikoden World then shouldnâ€™t they explain why and how it exists? If not, then they need to stop using it period and only use Runes from now on. If their isnâ€™t a reason for something, it becomes pointless.

And as far as Sarah goes, it is mentioned that she was born with a Flowing Rune on her body.

darkphoenix · Post by **darkphoenix** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:26 pm

Maybe Sydonia had some kind of ninja training ? Kage disappeared as well after chatting with Jowy at Muse + Rokkaku is not very far from the theif hideout (mt tigerwolf or something) so Sydonia could be a runaway ninja. no ?

Rune of Illusion · Post by **Rune of Illusion** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:43 pm

I doubt it. A lot happens in Suikoden with out the aid of runes or even true runes. True runes may allow for existance such as the Night Rune allowing for the existance of the undead, but they are not needed in doing supernatural things in most cases. There ways to manipulate true runes as well so no runes are not the be all and end all of the Suikoden world. The Sindar manipulates true runes in all sorts of ways.Crowley's and Mazus' reincarnation is another example. Now there may be a true rune allowing for reincarnation by is not needed to reincarnate. Crowley and Mazus reincarnated independently of a rune done through ancient supernatural means. So there are more supernatural things to Suikoden than runes.

WaterMoon · Post by **WaterMoon** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:00 pm

TrueBlood wrote:But, seriously, if magic is a real factor in the Suikoden World then shouldnâ€™t they explain why and how it exists? If not, then they need to stop using it period and only use Runes from now on. If their isnâ€™t a reason for something, it becomes pointless.

Did you ever consider that maybe the reason isn't known? There are lots of things that occur in our real world that still have no known explanation for them. Why should everything automatically be understood in the Suikoverse then?

Shinsengumi · Post by **Shinsengumi** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:15 pm

I said it once on a different site, Sydonia has a necklace that is similar to Viki's necklace.

Teleports awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

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