The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Crowetron » Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:50 am

I think he means Tenkai Stars. In that case, yeah, Tir in Suiko2 is basically death incarnate, even if he's technically not a strictly magic-based character.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:28 pm

I have to disagrewe with him then. All the main characters are very decent with runes though, they definitly don't suck at using them but I still have to say there are better, except as you said Tir McDoul who seems to kill everything.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Redheim » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:51 am

Eresh was omnipitent in every department, but she was stuck with the pale gate rune >_>
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby KFCrispy » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:56 am

Shabon makes a pretty good "physical element" "mage" with a Lion Rune + 2 free runes... along with a unite "bomb" attack with Sgt. Joe. but i guess that doesn't count...

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:20 pm

Here a good question, who has the best unites?? The Family attack in Suikoden 2 was pretty good, I dunno, I don't use unites as much as I should.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby KFCrispy » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:25 am

Chaco wrote:Here a good question, who has the best unites?? The Family attack in Suikoden 2 was pretty good, I dunno, I don't use unites as much as I should.

maybe this should be asked in each game's forum, and of course we want to discuss why they're good instead of listing ones that "i think are cool!"

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:48 am

maybe this should be asked in each game's forum, and of course we want to discuss why they're good instead of listing ones that "i think are cool!"


Sorry, I totally got off topic, however I never said "I think are cool" in there either. I will post a new topic someplace else.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby highwind44029 » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:04 am

These are the characters that have the highest MAG growth from each game:

SI - Luc, Crowley, Hellion, Tengaar
SII - Luc
SIII - Luc, Sarah
SIV - Ted, Maxine, Jeane, Warlock
ST - Jeane
SV - Zerase

It's difficult to compare characters between games because variables change. Suikoden I only allows 1 rune, Suikoden III had skills, Suikoden V had modified magic stats, Suikoden Tactics has different growth rates, etc. I personally think that whoever is under the Tenkai Star (Star of Idleness) would be the best mage per game. These are Luc, Ted, and Zerase. They all have the highest magic growth in the game, and in case of someone having the same magic growth as them, they beat them out because they usually have above average speed. Obviously, there's an imbalance because Luc and Ted had True Runes, and Zerase had a powerful unique rune.

That is only speaking from a game-wise perspective.

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:39 pm

I still say it's Cleo because of the fact that not only is she amazing at magic but she has good stats in other areas to and is one of the only mages who casn actually kill things with her regular weapon early on. :wink:
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Runemaster » Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:30 am

S5:
Zerase.
because:

i think she has the highest Magic in the game
her strength is below average but not as low asa staff-users.
long range weapon
the Star Rune- great rune esp. early in the game
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recruited first before other great mages
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:46 am

A lot of people like Zerase but I thought she was a bit of a grump, she was really pretty though without the hood on (like int he bath scenes) if she went with a bit less of a goth like look I'd like her more I think.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby highwind44029 » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:57 am

It's about being the strongest mage, not being Miss Congeniality though..

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:34 pm

True that, in case of strongest I say Cleo, reason being she has better stats in areas like Defense and Attack then mages like Zerase, Luc or even Crowley.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby manween_syx » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:25 am

Cleo lose on Zerase because the limited rune slot (altough physically it's debatable which one is more 'able')..

And maybe the game mechanics changes over time ( I remember using runes just to face the boss in SI), so, the usability of mage is evolving with the series too(somehow..)

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby KFCrispy » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:40 am

Cleo is an ordinary human who has never accomplished any magical feats and doesn't even have a mage-level magic stat, so why would she even be considered??


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