The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Vermillion.Twilight » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:51 pm

Id go with
S1 = Crowley
S2 = Luc
S3 = Luc/Sasarai
S4 = Ted
S5 = Zerase

So since he was the best in two games

Luc = Strongest mage ever.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby RangerDeon » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:27 am

Chaco wrote:
That's funny you don't like his personality.


I sometimes won't use a character just because I don't like them, even if they are uber strong. In Suikoden 2 I was so mad how many times I was forced to use Freed Y. :evil:

I'm the same way.

I don't care about stats and all that. .

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Vermillion.Twilight » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:28 am

I hated Salome in S3...I got annoyed when I was forced to use him.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby patapi » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:17 am

RangerDeon wrote:
Chaco wrote:
That's funny you don't like his personality.


I sometimes won't use a character just because I don't like them, even if they are uber strong. In Suikoden 2 I was so mad how many times I was forced to use Freed Y. :evil:

I'm the same way.

I don't care about stats and all that. .

Except that Freed Y had neither the stats nor the personality to make him worthwhile using.

To me, anyway.

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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Redheim » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:40 pm

S1 Crowley
S2 Mazus
S3 Luc
S4 Ted
S5 Zerase

Well, to tell the truth, Ted is god.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Vermillion.Twilight » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:13 pm

Redheim wrote:S1 Crowley
S2 Mazus
S3 Luc
S4 Ted
S5 Zerase

Well, to tell the truth, Ted is god.


Ted isint that great compared to Luc,Sasarai,Zerase.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Redheim » Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:58 am

I love your sig, I am playing persona right now. Atlus = win.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Baron » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:52 am

Iv gotta say that Zerase is one of the strongest mages in the Suiko Universe. She was my favorite mage user.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Crowetron » Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:43 pm

I gotta vote Zerase. Give her a Magic Absorb rune, and she can pretty much rain a continuous stream of galactic debris falling on your enemy's head! I don't even know if the Star Rune is a True Rune, but she sure used it like one.

Luc was pretty impressive, overall, and I do like that you can kind of see his powers grow over the course of the games (sucks in S1, above average in S2, and scary enough for main baddie role in S3), but he didn't have the smarts to use a long range weapon like Zerase & Ted. Mages cannot take a punch, and robes are NOT armor, so front row is basically suicide for them.

MP runs out eventually, and it's pointless to bust out The Shredding against some friggin' Axe Bunnies, so it never hurts to be able to deal some physical damage, too.

Besides, if your conjured blade-like cyclone can't take your foes down in one hit, they can basically just walk up push you over. At least in the back row they have to fight through your friends to get to you. Your friend who have swords.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:49 am

Suikoden 1
I dont know if I would call her strongest but Cleo was really good, she wasnt the best mage, but more she had better stats then most mages in terms of Defense and Attack. I could put her in the front row and still destroy the enemy's.

Crowley is hands down the best mage in Suikoden 1, but I dont like using him since I dont like him.

Suikoden 5
Zerase, as many have said is the strongest. The only thing is she died way to fast, her HOP and Defense in my opinon were way to low. I like having a mage I don't have to protect/heal the entire round. However her Magic powers are unmatched.

Suikoden 2-3
Luc is cool, I like his character and abilities. In Suikoden 1 he sucked but in 2-3 he was much better. Again, the problem with him is his low defense and bad weapon choice.

Suikoden 4
Ted was the best mage in Suikoden 4. Not just because of his Soul Eater, but since there was no backrow in Suikoden 4 I had to use a mage with good defense to.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Vermillion.Twilight » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:42 pm

Ted was decent but he couldint hold a candle to McDohl in S2. McDohl had access to better runes to fill the 2nd and third slot. I think Jowy wins the hybrid contest...the black sword rune was insane at high levels (Fight with Garudo)
The shield rune was pathetic compared to the sword in sheer magic power and usefullness.

Zerase is the best mage in the series so far...with

Star/Magic Absorb/Flowing

She can almost single handedly make your party unbeatable.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:15 pm

I was saying who was strongets in each GAME. Overall I would say Crowley and Zerase.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Vermillion.Twilight » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:01 pm

Id add Eresh to the list too. She rocked.
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Baron » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:02 pm

Well stronges mages were main characters,atleast to me...
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Re: The strongest mage to ever usable in suikoden games.

Postby Chaco » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:28 pm

Well stronges mages were main characters,atleast to me...


Main Characters??
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