Pesmerga and Yuber

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Pesmerga and Yuber

Postby Luko » Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:11 pm

Ok, so i was having a conversation with another huge suikoden fan over a chatlog in world of warcraft, And he was saying how he hoped yuber would be in 4. So eventually we got to talking about these two and their inevitable duel, and why they don't like each other in the first place. So i was thinking maybe at one point Yuber's True Rune got tired of him and saw a good host in Pesmerga. So it did the thing those true runes do and left Yuber for him. But then To get it back maybe Yuber did something extremely bad (or good in the True runes eyes) to get in its good graces and it came back. Now this pissed pesmerga off because he liked the power. So of course i figures the only way to get the rune back is kill him.

i don't know but that could lead into an intresting back story :P
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Postby Flame Champion » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:16 pm

that's not very likely, but is possible i guess

the popular theory seems to be that these two represent Order (Pesmerga) and chaos (Yuber).

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Postby Luko » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:10 pm

Yea but pesmerga wear black, I wouldn't want my knights of order in black armor, kinda feels rhetorical.
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Postby Vextor » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:17 pm

How does that feel rhetorical?
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Postby Flame Champion » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:50 am

lol....rhetorical. maybe he meant ironic?

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Postby Luko » Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:17 pm

Maybe i did..*shrug*
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Postby Rai-Jin » Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:21 pm

I think for myself the Dharma and Chaos Theory is dumb
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Postby jowy blight » Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:20 am

i do not think pesmerga need a power he is verry strong.
he beat yuber in suikoden 1.
he want another thing.
but i do not know what :twisted:

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Postby Luko » Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:33 am

I was pretty sure they tied in 1.
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Postby Vextor » Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:55 am

Pesmerga defeated Yuber's army, but in a duel, Yuber ran away instead of seriously engaging Pesmerga. So it's inconclusive.

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Postby Lino_En_Kuldes » Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:11 pm

i thought it was pretty bad that they gave yuber such a big role in sk3 only to just completely forget pesmerga. i mean they are supposed to be rivals and all

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Postby demon eye » Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:26 pm

Well, I don't know if they are suppose to be rivals. All we know is that Pesmerga is chasing Yuber, but we have no idea why. They obviously know eachother, but it seems that Yuber really has no intentions of having a direct conflict with Pesmerga. Usually a rivalry spawns from an equal interest in both parties involved. Yuber does not seem to be interested in Pesmerga in the slightest.

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Postby Gazer117 » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:07 pm

I would like to bring to light the fact that as far as we know neither on of them has seemed to age. This leads to my theory that they Both have true Runes and that the two oppose each other like the black sword and bright shield.

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Postby Lino_En_Kuldes » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:30 pm

true i'll give u that, its pretty strange that pesmerga is so intent on catching him while yuber doesnt even seem to know he existes. i hope that in a future game they give some more insight into their conflict

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Postby Dakkon » Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:04 pm

regarding lino's post:
i've also heard speculated that somewhere between 2 and 3 that yuber and pesmerga may have already had their conflict and yuber may have won. that would explain a: pesmerga's abscense and b: yuber's possesion of the king crimson.
i dont really have an opinion on it, but it seems possible.


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