Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby hotspot » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:33 pm

I agree that it is most likely just an error made by the creators; as well as it could easily be switched by a rune master.

Also, about Viki not aging. Although it doesn't seem like she doesn't age, it could just be that no one has really tried to make her look younger, but she could actually be older, but still look the same.
In my opinion, Viki looks like she's in her 30's in the third Suikoden. Not the others though, and as someone else said... she does recall some people, especially Jeane.... so I don't think it's a different Viki.
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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby JanusThePaladin » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:37 pm

The thing is If her age is infact listed as 16, its not that she doesn't age. She would literally be ageless. If she was simply immortally youthful, her age would change, just like Ted is over 300 years old, tho he has not aged (much). The aspect of a true rune is that it locks you into your body, and your body ceases to age. Viki's body, on the other hand (get it? cuz the rune changed?) has not simply ceased to age. Her bio states that she has only experienced 16 years of life. there is a difference.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby sticky-runes » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:30 pm

she sneezed and accidently teleported the rune onto her other hand. There you go.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby veriaqa » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:24 pm

JanusThePaladin wrote:The thing is If her age is infact listed as 16, its not that she doesn't age. She would literally be ageless. If she was simply immortally youthful, her age would change, just like Ted is over 300 years old, tho he has not aged (much). The aspect of a true rune is that it locks you into your body, and your body ceases to age. Viki's body, on the other hand (get it? cuz the rune changed?) has not simply ceased to age. Her bio states that she has only experienced 16 years of life. there is a difference.


This is what most fans missed. Most true rune bearer have their age changed through the games. Luc listed as 16 in S2 and then 30 in S3, Ted 150 -> 300, etc. But Viki always listed as 16 in every games. Its like she was stuck in time, that time doesnt have control over her. So what true rune are missing from Suiko series so far again?

I dont say she has Time rune, but she could be controlled by someone/thing that bear the time rune. He/she/it also could be the reason there are two Vikis in Suiko3.
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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Aerolithe Lion » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:43 pm

Or she's just time traveling and all the games are happening in a matter of months to her. This is a much more simple theory

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby veriaqa » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:32 pm

Aerolithe Lion wrote:Or she's just time traveling and all the games are happening in a matter of months to her. This is a much more simple theory


Nope. Suiko1 itself lasted for 5 frickin years. If she was in it for just 1/5 of it that would be 1 year.
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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Aerolithe Lion » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:30 pm

Was she there from Day one? I recall recruiting he later in the game

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby veriaqa » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:37 pm

Aerolithe Lion wrote:Was she there from Day one? I recall recruiting he later in the game


No. And I say it again, even if she only experiencing it for one fifth (1/5 or 20%) of the war, she would be in it for 1 year.
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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Aerolithe Lion » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:42 pm

Maybe that was the last one she was in. She was 16 through the other wars and 17 in that one. Could be anything

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby veriaqa » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:43 pm

Aerolithe Lion wrote:Maybe that was the last one she was in. She was 16 through the other wars and 17 in that one. Could be anything


Except that she was going from Suiko1 to Suiko2 directly. Its in the game.
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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby bluemask » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:14 am

veriaqa wrote:
Aerolithe Lion wrote:Maybe that was the last one she was in. She was 16 through the other wars and 17 in that one. Could be anything


Except that she was going from Suiko1 to Suiko2 directly. Its in the game.

The only bridging fact is that, the war in Suikoden 1 did not took more than one or even a full year; it was only months. You could say that it is 2 to 3 years between Suikoden I an Suikoden II however, Viki teleported right when the War is already going on, not when the war was about to start or the events of Suikoden II was only about to unfold.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby veriaqa » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:22 am

bluemask wrote:
veriaqa wrote:
Aerolithe Lion wrote:Maybe that was the last one she was in. She was 16 through the other wars and 17 in that one. Could be anything


Except that she was going from Suiko1 to Suiko2 directly. Its in the game.

The only bridging fact is that, the war in Suikoden 1 did not took more than one or even a full year; it was only months. You could say that it is 2 to 3 years between Suikoden I an Suikoden II however, Viki teleported right when the War is already going on, not when the war was about to start or the events of Suikoden II was only about to unfold.


Ah, another wise men. An advice though, before you make yourself look stupid please check the fact first.

453 - Gate Rune Wars Begin
Births - Fred, Barts
454: Births - Rhett, Chris Lightfellow, Muto, Jacques, Lilly Pendragon
455 - Liberation Army Reforms
Births - Mukumuku, Wilder, Mokumoku, Makumaku, Mekumeku, Mikumiku, Shizu, Pilika
456 - Jowstone Invades Scarlet Moon
Births - Landis
457 - Gate Rune Wars End, Toran Established


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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby bluemask » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:31 am

veriaqa wrote:Ah, another wise men. An advice though, before you make yourself look stupid please check the fact first.

Ah well that's kind of rude of you sir/maam. Well first, I'm a new member, I'm not using at as an excuse though. Why are you being rude, may I ask?

Alright, I didn't get the fact straight since that's what is stuck in my knowledge well, perhaps it was a few years back and I don't know the timeline existed from this site, someone from another forum (GameFaqs so just you know) just stated that misleading info and I took it as a fact.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Pyriel » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:34 am

453 - Gate Rune Wars Begin
Births - Fred, Barts
454: Births - Rhett, Chris Lightfellow, Muto, Jacques, Lilly Pendragon
455 - Liberation Army Reforms
Births - Mukumuku, Wilder, Mokumoku, Makumaku, Mekumeku, Mikumiku, Shizu, Pilika
456 - Jowstone Invades Scarlet Moon
Births - Landis
457 - Gate Rune Wars End, Toran Established

How are we meant to read this? It says in 455 the Liberation Army reformed. Is that when it came under McDohl's leadership? In that case the Gate Rune Wars started two years or so before the events of Suikoden, which in turn means that Suikoden's story covered three years maximum, but it was probably closer to two years. I seem to recall Odessa saying that her version of the Liberation Army was itself a second iteration. If the timeline is pointing to that event, it narrows it down even further. I don't think that's what it means, though. If it is, then the Gate Rune Wars went on for two years with, I guess, just terrorist cells for the Empire to fight against.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby veriaqa » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:40 am

bluemask wrote:
veriaqa wrote:Ah, another wise men. An advice though, before you make yourself look stupid please check the fact first.

Ah well that's kind of rude of you sir/maam. Well first, I'm a new member, I'm not using at as an excuse though. Why are you being rude, may I ask?

Alright, I didn't get the fact straight since that's what is stuck in my knowledge well, perhaps it was a few years back and I don't know the timeline existed from this site, someone from another forum (GameFaqs so just you know) just stated that misleading info and I took it as a fact.


Then I'm sorry. Didnt mean to be rude. Just tried to give an advice.
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