Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

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Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby RevKoden » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:54 pm

IN suikoden IV, viki's blinking rune is in Left hand, while in the other suikoden it is in her right hand...but she might get it changed, from one hand to another hand...but still...i need confirmation about this..

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby freshmetal » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:05 pm

I've never noticed this before. I'm sure it's the same Viki. I think maybe the devs just fudged the placement on that one.
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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby killerslime » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:28 pm

This supports the multiple Viki theory. She cant be 16 in every game from time travel it doesn't make any sense. Konami where sneaky with this one how didn't anyone notice this 'inconsistency' before now?

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby RevKoden » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:11 pm

And she is very powerful too in suikoden iv, she can even lift the ship all the way through the destination..
But she cant just magically change her rune to left hand she needs jeane/rune sage assistance...she is really mysterious...okay i dont believe S4 viki as the same viki in all suikoden series.....i believe ~400 SY is another viki, while 400~ SY is the current viki of SUikoden 2

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Hirathien » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:56 pm

It can just be, you know, a GAMEPLAY MECHANIC? Everything doesn't need to overshadow something so, so much bigger.

So many people think Suikoden IV did everything wrong, and hey, they got her rune on the wrong hand!

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Punkaiser » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:05 pm

I agree with Hirathien here, or else should there be 2 georg because in S2 his killer rune was removable while this same rune was permanent attached to him in S5? Much likely S4's at fault again.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Hirathien » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:42 am

I think an even better example would be Luc, you can remove his Wind rune and he can still use it in major battles. Do you have two different Luc's laying around that you just whip out when you need either of them? No.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby killerslime » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:47 am

Though i agree that it probably is a mistake by Konami its not exactly the same as Luc or Georg because we already have two Viki's in Suikoden 3. Plus time travel is highly linked to parallel universes therefore it wouldn't be too far fetched to conclude that each Viki could be a different person in each game. It would explain how she doesn't age past 16 even though some of the wars she participated in lasted well over a year.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Raww Le Klueze » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:05 am

Plus time travel is highly linked to parallel universes therefore it wouldn't be too far fetched to conclude that each Viki could be a different person in each game.
Viki clearly remembers people across games so no, it's extremely far fetched to think she's a different person in each game based on her non-unique Blinking Rune switching hands in one game.
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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby killerslime » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:20 am

She could be remembering the parallel versions of people, and i'm basing the theory more on the fact that she's 16 in every game without the use of a true rune how would you attempt to explain that?

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Punkaiser » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:44 am

As I recall, only in S2, her age was told as 16 and not mentionned in any other games, i wonder which sources you read thaat claim her to be 16 in every game?

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby killerslime » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:51 am

I got my information from The Marugoto Genso Suikoden art book but surely one of the Encyclopaedias states her age, can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby freshmetal » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:06 am

Even if she is 16 in each game, she could have acheived agelessness or some other strange aging process (slower aging or reversed aging) by some other means. True Runes aren't the only possible explination for strange mystical powers in the Suikoden world (just look at characters like Jeane and Sarah for example). Viki can surely be grouped among those unexplainable unique characters.

My personal explaination for this thread's question is a combination of two simple explainations.
1. Suikoden IV's programers screwed up the rune's placement like Hirathien said, plain and simple.
2. The developers don't account for the time passage DURING a game when giving her age. They simply assume that since she jumps from the end of one game to the next, that she stays the same age, forgeting that some of the games span more than a year.

Of course, this all only applies IF she's officially listed as 16 years old in each game.
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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby Antimatzist » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:36 am

killerslime wrote:She could be remembering the parallel versions of people, and i'm basing the theory more on the fact that she's 16 in every game without the use of a true rune how would you attempt to explain that?

She could be from another dimension, or half, like Kyril. Isn't Vikis "homeland" shown in one of the Suikogaidens and it's looking like another dimension?

I don't think that the Viki's are changing. I guess they just didn't pay that much attention to this aspect. Slightly OT, is her weapon's name in V a wrong translation or does it actually change in the japanese version? Because I am amazed how they could keep the continuity there for 3 games and then break it.

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Re: Viki suikoden IV...not the same viki??

Postby EstrangedIX » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:57 pm

A simpler answer for the rune being on her other hand is that she walked into a rune shop and had it switched. I'm sure there's no requirement to be escorted by a Tenkai to be a rune shop patron.
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