Toran Castle's layout

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Toran Castle's layout

Postby KFCrispy » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:53 pm

Toran Castle's ground floor stairs does not make sense. it is all the way on the right of the ground floor, and you have to go further right to get to the next floor. but you end up next to the elevator...

Ground floor: (D)ownstairs, (E)levator, (U)pstairs
D_____E_____U

the stair section has you go up right down

1st floor..
_____DEU_____

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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Benthos » Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:05 pm

Yeah, you're right. It makes me confuse actually. When I'm in a hurry inside the castle, I run into the stairs and then I arrive at the point I was before because I ran in the same direction.

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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby WichitaQ » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:03 pm

i never paid attention to this, and i have never even noticed this :roll:

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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Gen. Dirge » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:48 pm

Toran castle was my LEAST favorite HQ in the whole series.......
(because it looked like a huge pile of bird droppings on the outside........sorry for offending some people)

You're right, it IS very confusing.
(That's why I'd rather be out on an adventure than stay in that castle and get lost on the stairs...)
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Postby RangerDeon » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:09 pm

WichitaQ wrote:i never paid attention to this, and i have never even noticed this :roll:

same here

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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Crowetron » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:12 am

Now that you mention it, it IS pretty crazy. But, Toran wasn't much of a castle in the first place, really just a hollow rock that jutted out of the lake and made a cozy home for a perfectly nice zombie dragon until someone had to show up and start killing things!


Anyway, Toran made no sense, particularly when you consider that there were no grunts or footsoldiers hanging around. Where did the army stay between battles? No one knows.
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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby patapi » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:54 am

It used to serve as a base for the Imperial Navy, until Sonya Shulen moved her troops to the newly built Shaharazade.

In fact, Sonya was the one who left the Dragon to look after the place in their absence. It didn't conveniently turn the fortress into its home by pure chance.

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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Crowetron » Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:11 pm

Oh......well, poo. Of course, this begs the question, how could Sonya command undead (or even living) dragons? She didn't have a Black Rune.
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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Vextor » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:06 pm

She didn't need to command the zombie dragon, all she did was summon the thing (and apparently she knew how to do that sort of stuff). The zombie dragon was just there to kill anything that entered, and that didn't require any commanding by the general.
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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Crowetron » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:53 pm

Still, the thing had wings, and was clearly mobile, so she must have at least been able to command it to stay within the castle. Outside of powerful commands or magic, I don't really see how one could control a dangerous undead monstrosity like that. Maybe she did have a Black Rune, and the whole "rune-burning-away" scene for her got cut from the final game?
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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby LanceHeart » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:40 pm

The dragon probably couldn't get out of the castle, considering where it was positioned. I don't think it would have tried to blast its way out for fear of having the castle cave in on it.
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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby KFCrispy » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:58 pm

dragon: "goddamnit, i've been summoned to another castle and the paths are too narrow for me to get out again!!!"

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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Crowetron » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:22 am

Man...now I feel bad for that dragon. There he was just relaxing in bizarro world, or where ever summoned critters come from, then some bossy blonde calls him into a whole different dimension and traps him in a crappy hollow rock formation, and for what? To keep out squatters?

Poor Zombie Dragon. He just can't catch a break.
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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Chaco » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:42 pm

Man...now I feel bad for that dragon. There he was just relaxing in bizarro world, or where ever summoned critters come from, then some bossy blonde calls him into a whole different dimension and traps him in a crappy hollow rock formation, and for what? To keep out squatters?

Poor Zombie Dragon. He just can't catch a break.


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Re: Toran Castle's layout

Postby Crowetron » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:28 am

Sorry. I shall refrain from mentioning his wife and kids, who shall never know why daddy never returned from the ethereal grocery store that fateful day...
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