spoilers! References to Previous Suikodens?

Lourde Incarnadine · Post by **Lourde Incarnadine** » Fri May 19, 2006 1:12 am

patapi wrote:Thanks, Jowy. Which reminds me that perhaps we can add some of those geography info into the guide on the main site.

xXSqualleoNXx wrote:Was it lazyness that the designers didn't bother to add all the other representatives? They all attended the ceremony, even if they weren't shown. We know this because the officials from hershville were all talking about the rush of having so many important foreigners in their port. Plus, we know for a fact Milich came.

Damn it Konami, would it have killed you to add them?
It's not surprising. In S2, we have Tesla and a number of other minor returning characters (Eileen, Liukan, to name a few) who got no updated character portrait. Similarly, Beecham didn't get any until he became a playable character in S3.

Kage also lost face, for what it's worth. And I could swear the chief of Rokkaku did, as well...

xXSqualleoNXx · Post by **xXSqualleoNXx** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:59 am

Darian wrote:Well with main 'good guys' alone numbering 108 can you really blame them? ;P

Hmmm..... they added more worthless stuff. Why does Peck get his five seconds in the limelight in Suiko IV then? The guy wasn't even important and he freakin' got a character portrait, only to burn ten seconds later.

But really, even though I know it is not as easy as one would think to make characters out of bare bone, I still lament the fact they couldn't throw us a bone here. It would have made a nice Easter cookie to at least see Milich.

Philweasel · Post by **Philweasel** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:09 am

The other sacred games warriors all got unique character models so it can't have been that hard.

Sickpup · Post by **Sickpup** » Fri May 19, 2006 2:22 pm

I think maybe they made it an extreme after-thought to have someone say that Milich was at the ceremony. Long after they made the scene.

And I'm sorry, but can someone remind me of when Beecham was in Suikoden 2? I would like to play and find out myself...but if you read the my general discussion post..we all know how that went.

Philweasel · Post by **Philweasel** » Fri May 19, 2006 4:47 pm

Sickpup wrote:I think maybe they made it an extreme after-thought to have someone say that Milich was at the ceremony. Long after they made the scene.

And I'm sorry, but can someone remind me of when Beecham was in Suikoden 2? I would like to play and find out myself...but if you read the my general discussion post..we all know how that went.

When you're attacking Muse, and the Karaya troops get mauled. Someone named Beacham tells Lucia to run, and that he will guard her retreat. It's kinda odd how he gets a name really.

I wonder if anyone we know was actually in the Sacred games? I swear one of the guys Childerich frags looks a little like Viktor.

xXSqualleoNXx · Post by **xXSqualleoNXx** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:14 pm

Philweasel wrote:
Sickpup wrote:I think maybe they made it an extreme after-thought to have someone say that Milich was at the ceremony. Long after they made the scene.

And I'm sorry, but can someone remind me of when Beecham was in Suikoden 2? I would like to play and find out myself...but if you read the my general discussion post..we all know how that went.
When you're attacking Muse, and the Karaya troops get mauled. Someone named Beacham tells Lucia to run, and that he will guard her retreat. It's kinda odd how he gets a name really.

I wonder if anyone we know was actually in the Sacred games? I swear one of the guys Childerich frags looks a little like Viktor.

you guys see Viktor anywhere. Either way, all the other warriors were, for the most part, never shown.

Alas, we will always lament what could have been but never was. They could have used this opportunity to show future key people from other nations like Gaien or Nagarea. Gaien is way overdue for an update and Nagarea, with it's religious based country and total silence is also a good place to expand upon.

Post by **patapi** » Fri May 19, 2006 9:06 pm

Nagarea never made it to the coronation, so it was understandable.

xXSqualleoNXx · Post by **xXSqualleoNXx** » Sat May 20, 2006 7:55 pm

patapi wrote:Nagarea never made it to the coronation, so it was understandable.

Wha ! Where was that stated or even hinted through the whole game?

kanzuki · Post by **kanzuki** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:14 am

Based on the cut scenes, I didn't see Milich anywhere.

The right of the path where Lymsleia and Gizel walks consists of Falenans; the queen knights Galleon, Zahhak, Alenia, Miakis, Haswar and Salum Barows (along with random soldiers)

The left, are Skald Egan, and the rest were from Armes; Shula, Guisu and uhh....can't remember the last Armes dude. The one with blonde hair and look kinda 'pretty'. And also some random soldiers in the background =p

Edit: Just noticed someone has posted up the details. My mistake. Pls delete the post if it's not important.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:03 pm

This is an interesting thing I have observe but have anyone noticed that in almost every suikoden game except for 4 and I haven't played tactics yet that there is always an old book talking about the previous game that came before well except for in 1 of course since there isn't a previous game. For example in Suiko 2 there is a book talking about the Toran Liberation war, in Suiko 3 one about the Dunan Unification War, Suiko 4 has a book but it's on the Scarlet moon Empire if my memory serves me correctly. I don't know if Tactics has any books but if they did I'm sure it will probably have a book talking about the Island Nation war. Now mind you I haven't found all of the books in Suiko 5 yet but I'm kinda betting that if there is it will be a book on the Island Nation War and the events of what happened in Tactics.

highwind44029 · Post by **highwind44029** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:27 am

kanzuki wrote:The left, are Skald Egan, and the rest were from Armes; Shula, Guisu and uhh....can't remember the last Armes dude. The one with blonde hair and look kinda 'pretty'. And also some random soldiers in the background =p

Maha Sparna, and that dude.... was a chick.

Anyway, I just thought I should mention something that has been bugging me.

Lu mentioned that Babbage (or Doctor Gear) had two apprentices: Apprentice Number 1 (Sorensen) and Apprentice Number 2... I'm just wondering. Could Apprentice Number 2 possibly be Juppo? It's not that far off, I would think. Juppo's weapon in Suikoden 1 *was* a gear, if I remember correctly...

Sickpup · Post by **Sickpup** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:55 am

And both Juppo and Babbage build crazy robots to guard important things.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:44 am

I thought she considered the Prince apprentice number two?

Pollensalta · Post by **Pollensalta** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:08 am

And Juppo fought with a throwing weapon. Was it darts?

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:51 am

Sickpup wrote:And both Juppo and Babbage build crazy robots to guard important things.

I think Juppo broke into Lepants manor, which had crazy robots, but he did not create them. Or did I get confused?