Origins of Suikoden clothing

Sasarai is cute · Post by **Sasarai is cute** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:01 pm

Does anyone know how much Konami actually studied real historical cultures, when designing the clothing characters wear in the Suikoden games? Tinto way of dressing, which combines 19th century wild west with 17th century spanish/french styles, is a good example of this mish mash.

Also, who do YOU consider the best dresser of all characters, non stars of destiny included, in any of the Suikoden games?

Agremsep · Post by **Agremsep** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:18 pm

As of the dressing, I can say Tir, Riou and Nanami has a very chinese look into it. Some are notably Japanese like Tai Ho, Genshu, YamKoo, etc etc.
The rest are just western.

highwind44029 · Post by **highwind44029** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:23 pm

Kasumi, Sasuke, Mondo, obviously Japanese.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:44 pm

Hanzo too.

I won't even pretend to know anything about French culture but Harmonia seems strongly influenced by French culture in the real world.

The Karaya Clan look like they were based off of Native Americans.

kuroinekokun · Post by **kuroinekokun** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:01 pm

I think the clothes from Suiko 3 are more 'modernized' than from 1 and 2. I'm going to use Viktor and Ace as comparison. Just bear with me.
Viktor's clothes are plain as in most of the colors are of one type of cloth (Note: Brown pants) while Ace's clothes, or specifically the pants, are printed cammos. So the Suikoden world discovered printed cloth already.

I can't say who's got the best clothes because I'm a fan of many but I'm all in favor for Albert's coat, Caesar's casual wear, Geddoe's outfit, Clive's ensemble, Sierra's clothes and Stallion's blue outfit (who says too much blue is bad?) Oh and Yuber's wardrobe change.

Is this too much?

EDIT: I forgot to add this.

But I think the Chisha clan's outfits are based on Islamic culture. I'm mainly basing this on their hats and scarves. Also the clothes are mostly loose fitting and covered, especially for the women.
As for Caleria, most of the natives are dressed in an Arabic sense in mind.
La Buque is what puzzles me. What are they based on? The hats remind me of one of those Japanese farmer hats I see on documentaries. And what's the purpose for it? Blocking Mantor poop?

Eao · Post by **Eao** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:09 pm

while Ace's clothes, or specifically the pants, are printed cammos. So the Suikoden world discovered printed cloth already.
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well the "suikoverse" has lots of other things, like well "Sindar induced technoligy" as well as Elevators and movie cameras.

some Suiko Charas have commited horrible fashion crimes. We all know who they are, and for the most part we can agree 70% of the time when some are in question. I like topics like this, it makes us look smart and knowlagable about the world.

Post by **Vextor** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:15 am

Ishikawa has stated that the Karaya costimes are based on Bulgarian folk clothing.

Sasarai is cute · Post by **Sasarai is cute** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:38 am

I agree, Alberts coat is nice. It's very Versace.

Haha, "the worst fashion crimes", there wouldn't be any Suikoden without them.

Mikltov · Post by **Mikltov** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:48 am

I think that Harmonian's cloths are from the Europe, and more essencialy from Germany. If names are inspired from Germany, the cloths are as well.

Vincent of Scarlet Moon · Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:00 am

Mikltov wrote:I think that Harmonian's cloths are from the Europe, and more essencialy from Germany. If names are inspired from Germany, the cloths are as well.

What great logic. Care to explain why for me there, champ?

RageRune · Post by **RageRune** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:23 am

I'd would like to add that I think the Highland characters clothes looked more of a Middle age Europe. Like how Jillia's dress has ( I think) a corset with her dress free-flowing down as well as a matching red and black top. As well as the armor of the generals. Luca Blight had a powerful looking knight armor with a blue cape behind, kind of reminded me of a commander in the Middle-age era of Europe.Same thing can be said about Culgan and Seed's armor/robe combos.

I forgot to add this. But I think the Chisha clan's outfits are based on Islamic culture. I'm mainly basing this on their hats and scarves. Also the clothes are mostly loose fitting and covered, especially for the women.

I agree with that. THough I think they're clothes are more of a bibilical Jerusalem look .

And I can't tell if the Zexens clothes are Western Europe (mainly French) or industrial American?

kuroinekokun · Post by **kuroinekokun** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:02 pm

I just watched my Disney's Three Musketeers DVD again yesterday (yes, I have no life) and I thought the Tinto Group's clothes, especially Lilly, looked like they were taken right from there. Heck, even the Tinto combo and the way they took out their swords remind me of them.

I do agree that the Highland royalty were taken from the Middle Ages. When I first saw Jillia in the opening movie, I was thinking 'Princess' because of what she was wearing.

Thanks for agreeing with me, RageRune!

And Le Buque still puzzles me. The hats... the HATS!

silvershadow27 · Post by **silvershadow27** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:48 am

Oh! I don't know if anyone else has noticed this ( If anyone has watched Braveheart then you'll know what I mean )

Karaya Clan - almost tartan outfits ( lots of expensive linen) Shame about the MC Hammer trousers!

The Zexens - very Middle Ages ( Chris' armour rules! ) Orange is a nice, balanced colur that goes pretty well!

kuroinekokun · Post by **kuroinekokun** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:32 am

silvershadow27 wrote:Oh! I don't know if anyone else has noticed this ( If anyone has watched Braveheart then you'll know what I mean )

Karaya Clan - almost tartan outfits ( lots of expensive linen) Shame about the MC Hammer trousers!

The Zexens - very Middle Ages ( Chris' armour rules! ) Orange is a nice, balanced colur that goes pretty well!

SARSadmin wrote:Ishikawa has stated that the Karaya costimes are based on Bulgarian folk clothing.

Karaya's based on Bulgarian folk as stated above.

Yes, I do agree that the Zexen armor is cool. One armor I would like to state is Fred's. It's very unique, as far as traditional armor can go. I mean it looks purplish/dark purple. And the 'bird/phoenix' symbol is familiar. I'm sure I've seen it before at a movie or a book somewhere (not on his grandfather. I know Maximillian has it too). Can anybody confirm this?

Yubers-Apprentice · Post by **Yubers-Apprentice** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:51 am

They probably did study different cultures clothing around the world to get as much realism as they could.