eldrasidar wrote:Look and Luc and Sasarai. They both matured while possessing true runes, even though they've had those true runes their entire lives, so their true runes did not stop the growth and development of their bodies. Meanwhile Geddoe and Ted, who each held on to their runes for over 100 years, haven't apparently suffered any physical degradation, as might be expected. Ted and Geddoe also don't shrivel up into husks the moment they lose their runes, so it seems that the true runes they bear allow for continual cell regeneration(normally your body slowly and surely stops reproducing itself, which eventually leads to you dying).
I'm not sure what health issues you're referring to with regards to Geddoe and Sasarai after losing their runes. They both are obviously drained as a result of the violent removal as anyone would be after what is essentially a major surgery, but neither seems particularly worse off after having time to rest.
[/quote][/quote]The Flame Champion likewise, doesn't seem to have suffered any major health reactions from removing his rune either. Yes, he died at some point later, but it doesn't say when. Presumably he lived a reasonably full length life filling up the majority of the 50 years between when he gave up the rune, and when Suikoden 3 happens living to be maybe 70-80 years in total. When Sana says he chose a short life with her, keep in mind that he chose between eternity and a normal lifespan, which is going to be by comparison extremely short, regardless of how long it actually is.
eldrasidar wrote:Most of the details you're using are from the manga, which isn't canon, so you can't really use that for an argument. Plus you're using it to prove both sides of the argument, which just doesn't work at all.
The fact that they are clones shouldn't be an issue for Sasarai and Luc, since a clone still needs to be born and developed like any regular person, and given that in the game, Sasarai is actually shocked to discover he is a clone, one presumes he lived through a childhood as per normal, as did Luc.
I don't recall Jeane saying anything about Geddoe or Sasarai's health during the course of the game, so I've got to ignore that. The only in-game comment regarding to life span I can find is Luc saying Geddoe will die sooner rather than later, but Geddoe is in his late 30's/40's biologically anyway, so that's not entirely surprising.
I did find a single line that Geddoe says if he's the flame champion about the champion only living for a few more years afterwards, but that's not exactly a specific timetable, and of course he doesn't say when the flame champion got rid of the true rune so he may still have lived a reasonably length of time.
Geddoe: "When the True Rune bearer loses the rune, he suffers greatly and pays
a high price...You traded that mighty power for mortal life. You abandoned
everything in order to share with your loved ones the little time that was
left. I am jealous of you. Very much so. And now..."
Geddoe: "A mature person would choose a life with loved ones over worldly
battles and faraway futures. If you don't grasp this, you need to grow up!
You have a huge price to pay for abandoning your duty as a rune-bearer. When
FC did that, the power's backlash caused him such intense pain and exhaustion
that he only lasted a few more years. But he stood by his choice. The most
important reason for living was to be with his loved one, a mortal. A few
quality years with her were better than an eternity in misery."
gilgamesh31 wrote:Hmmm It does sound a bit fishy. Does anyone know if its official stated that he lost his rune for a few years during his wandering?
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