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Ronnie Bell

Postby Wolkendrache » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:38 am

She's born in 439 and it is said that she's one of the original members of the Liberation Army, which was formed in 453, so she was age 14. I guess she's either an orphan or a run-away and took into care by Mose. I'm wondering why she has/uses a family name. In the Suikoden world, this only (or mostly) applies for people from prominent families. There should be some backstory to this very young and giant lady who's bearing a powerful unique rune. Does anybody have more background information or other theories?
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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Vextor » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:53 am

In the case of Ronnie Bell, Bell is apparently not a last name. This is even specifically mentioned in the Genso Suikoden Encyclopedia published by Konami back in 2001. Her name is one of the cases where "parents may have added another word to the end out of affection" (rough translation from the Japanese text).

I also found the following study at some site--
Several popular medieval names just happened, arbitrarily, to end in the letters ‘b-e-l’ . They were Isabel, Amabel, and Sibella (Sibyl). Also coincidentally, “belle” happened to be the French word for “beautiful.”

Thereafter, “bel,” “belle,” or “bella” became a popular ending for girls names, and many names were coined based on this.

Some “bel” names include:

Sibella
Isabel, Isabelle, Isabella
Belle, Bella
Amabel
Arabella (a form of Amabel)
Mabel (a form of Amabel)
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Annabelle (originally a form of Amabel, but later used as Anna plus Belle)
Barabel (Barbara plus Belle)
Claribel (“Clara plus Belle)
Mariabella (Maria plus Bella)
Maribel (Maria plus Isabel, or Belle)
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Bonniebelle (“lively” plus Belle)
Christabel (“Christian” plus Belle)
Dowsabel (“sweet” plus Belle)
Dulcibel (“sweet” plus Belle)
Mirabelle (“admired” plus Belle)
Rosabel (“rose” plus Belle)
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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Sasarai10 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:51 pm

and Long Chan Chan has 3 names...so what? :P

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby BrucePrintscreen » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:12 pm

I thought she was named Bell after bells, you know, big heavy bronze stuff that makes a lot of noise? Seemed an appropriate nickname.

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Etienne » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:11 pm

Is it Bruce Springsteen or Bruce Printscreen?

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Antimatzist » Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:04 am

So it is Ronniebelle instead of two names?

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Raww Le Klueze » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:58 am

It's two names.
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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby sticky-runes » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:52 am

Ronnie Bellend.

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Wolkendrache » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:21 am

Thanks for clearing up that Bell is an additional given name. I was confused because 1. Bell is a common surname and 2. Bell is not added as suffix, but instead as separate name.
I guess there would have been much speculation if, likewise, it was Ana Bell and Isa Bell.

Another question: Is the Genso Suikoden Encyclopedia also the source for the information that Mose married Ronie Bell and is thus the father of Emily? Or is it mentioned in Suikoden 3 (I haven't played)? I'm not judging the age difference (18 years) between the two, I just want to point out that this seems to be unique in the Suikoden world so far.
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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Pyriel » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:41 am

Emily doesn't mention much of anything in 3, and there really aren't enough returning characters who would have cared enough about her parentage to share stories. I think the closest you get to anyone mentioning it is one of the investigations done on her:

"Her parents participated in the liberation war 18 years ago. Her father was a blacksmith."

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby suiken » Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:51 pm

Wolkendrache wrote:She's born in 439 and it is said that she's one of the original members of the Liberation Army, which was formed in 453, so she was age 14. I guess she's either an orphan or a run-away and took into care by Mose. I'm wondering why she has/uses a family name. In the Suikoden world, this only (or mostly) applies for people from prominent families. There should be some backstory to this very young and giant lady who's bearing a powerful unique rune. Does anybody have more background information or other theories?


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I thought she was in her 20's. So she was still a kid.

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Sasarai10 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:09 am

suiken wrote:
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I thought she was in her 20's. So she was still a kid.




I'd pass her as 30 or so,during S1 events.

But she was only 19.

Generally most characters in S1 were looking older than their age. Look at Mose for example. He looks like 50,but he was only 37 then.

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Wolkendrache » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:22 am

The character who confuses me most is Mina the dancer. She’s born in 444, and was recruited in about 456, maybe 457 at the latest (age 12/13). She's a fighter on top of that . After the events of S1, Karen became her student, so a 14-year-old trained another 14-year-old (Karen is born in 444 too). At least Karen was already 16 when she made the men in Kuskus horny.
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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Sasarai10 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:36 am

Wolkendrache wrote:The character who confuses me most is Mina the dancer. She’s born in 444, and was recruited in about 456, maybe 457 at the latest (age 12/13). She's a fighter on top of that . After the events of S1, Karen became her student, so a 14-year-old trained another 14-year-old (Karen is born in 444 too). At least Karen was already 16 when she made the men in Kuskus horny.



So the guys in Antei were pedophiles? :lol:

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Re: Ronnie Bell

Postby Pyriel » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:43 am

Well, to be fair that stuff shifts around quite a bit. My own great-great grandfather married a 14-year-old when he was 16 and then died in his early twenties, leaving behind 14 children.


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