Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

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Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby ninjaluc79 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:16 am

Well, I'm just thinking about it over the past few days, but I have seen many videos on how to beat the Beast Rune ridiculously fast (I can defeat him in at least 10 minutes using a normal team with normal equipment, whereas with power-up runes and gameshark codes, he only lasts 30 seconds. WTH?)

On the other hand, I have seen not so many videos on how to defeat the Wind Rincar, but it seems that players find him difficult to beat, as I have yet to see a speed kill of this boss.

And since there's no poll in this forums, you can rate the final bosses from the toughest to the easiest with difficulty ranges from 1 to 10, 10 being the hardest.
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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby Hirathien » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:30 am

It might also be it's a bit more tedious to fraps a PS2 boss, or whatever people use to record.

You found it odd that you had an easy time with Gameshark codes?! :lol:

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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby ninjaluc79 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:36 am

No, I did not say I used Gameshark. I only said that it took me 10 minutes to defeat the Beast Rune with a normal party with normal equipment, not some imbalanced party with power-up runes. Sure, power-up runes increase physical damage, but for me, magic runes are more practical because I don't want my MP to go to waste just because the rune slots were used for power-ups.

Now that said, the only glitch I exploited in S2 EVER is the Matilda Glitch, which made Riou level 79~80 early game. Now, if I'm not mistaken, Wind Rincar takes 20 minutes average... Please correct me if I'm wrong. I would gladly appreciate it.
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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby Antimatzist » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:10 am

Suikoden I: Quite easy, despite the elemental immunity. I think the zombie dragon was a lot harder
Suikoden II: I don't really remember but I think it was a long battle and was quite fitting. It gave me a hard time, but it's been a while that I played the game through.
Suikoden III: Don't really remember. I think I died first, then retried with my won levels from the karaya-flashback and then he was quite easy, you just have to know the order in which you should attack.
Suikoden IV: I think this one's the hardest. I never quite beat it quickly (with normal characters, not Lvl 100). It's a nice challenge.
Suikoden V: A complete joke! I mean even if you don't use Ernst, he isn't that tough. Too bad that Georg is completely useless since he pretty sure dies in the first round. I fought him once with Ernst and was amazed how the game designers didn't notice that exploit.

and now to the spin-offs:
Tactics: Well, the very final boss isn't so hard, but the battle before that gives me apretty hard time. Haven't completed it in S-Rank yet.
Tierkreis: I think this boss is quite tough, too. I used the team of citro-friends and it took some tries and time.

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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby TrueWater00 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:02 pm

Suikoden I - I totally agree with Antimatzist, The Zombie Dragon ( at the point in the game ) was probably the toughest boss fight you came across lol.

Suikoden II - Once again, another game where the Final Boss isn't even close to being "Difficult" I would say The battle with Luca is the hardest in the game.

Suikoden III - It was kinda hard.....nothing big though, I would say the battles with Luc, Yuber and Sarah were wayy more challenging.

Suikoden IV - Yeah the tree was a bit of a challenge, I would say the hardest boss fight out of any other one we have seen yet.

Suikoden V - Still a little tough for me ( Because I never ever use the cheap characters)

So I would say in order the most Difficult ( And I use that term loosely ) IV, III, V, I/II
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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby RangerDeon » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:58 pm

All of the bosses were a bit tough (not TOO tough, but the battles weren't 10 seconds) because of the characters I liked to use.

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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby RaijinRune » Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:18 pm

I'll go with the Giant Moth from S5...even at decent levels and equipment and weapons maxed out,skills, etc.,it was the pain of a lifetime....even S4 boss wasn't as bad and not at level 99.Wind Rincar from S3 is tough if you don't know what to expect but can be a breeze if you take time to train and use above average fighters.

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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby TrueWater00 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:29 pm

I retract my previous statement about the suikoden IV boss...I just beat the game again a few days ago....He was almost too easy..lol
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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby Thiamor » Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:29 pm

I'd say the end one in the first, due to not being able, yet, to play the others. As well as you cannot truly count the Zombie Dragon. It isn't a final boss, as you had to fight it near the start of the game. It'd be easier to fight if around the same general level during the end, fighting the final boss, but isn't harder than the final boss at that time.

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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby Nikisaur » Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:11 am

The gold dragon thing at the end of Suikoden 1 was piss easy. The first time round I wasted all my Judgement spells on the head that just got regenerated, then still beat it easy as.

Beast Rune is only hard if you get real bad luck with the status ailments.

I haven't gotten up to the end of 3 because my old PS2 died and I can't play NTSC games on my current one *shakes fist*

Haven't actually gotten up to the last boss in the others, being kind of ADD when it comes to the end of games. I get right up to the end and then play something else.
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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby Hirathien » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:46 am

If you want a troublesome boss, don't level your characters when you go for the Sun rune. He becomes rather annoying then.

But Suikoden doesn't really have all those challenges other games have, when it comes to end bosses at least. Check Star Ocean: The 2nd story. That boss, was a bitch.

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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby Zieg » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:07 am

I'd say the toughest for me was the Giant Tree in SIV, but for the reason that my characters were on relatively low levels, as I wouldn't bother leveling them up. In addition, I missed a few characters on my first playthrough (including Ted) and therefore I had to work with the ones I had recruited. I've never actually made a second attempt, and come to think of it, S IV's the only installment in the series I haven't managed to beat as of yet..

I believe I found the True Wind Incar quite challenging, as I had to approach it a few times before I finally whooped its arse (bloody "reflect" ability!).

Other than that, the bosses were rather on the easy-peasy side.
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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby suiko2fan2 » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:24 am

I don't think any of the final boss battles were too difficult, because by this point of the games your characters, if properly prepared, should have the best armor, runes, and sharpest weapons. The final battles aren't push over, but i never felt like oh no i am going to die.The Truly hard hard battles to me seem to be early on, before you get the very best stuff, like the zombie dragon and Luca Blight, or optional boss battles (3&4), nothing in V was overtly hard, given the crazy over-powered characters and fighting tactics you have and the weak monsters you fight.
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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby mitsukihikari14 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:00 am

this post of mine is some kinda late :)) haha but for me

SUIKODEN 1: im not playing it yet :))
SUIKODEN 2: Kinda easy.. my party: Riou;Persmerga;Mazus;Luc;Valeria;Georg :)) I attacked the left leg first so that it cannot revive its other parts and thats all and used all Mazus' magic and changed Luc's wind rune to Cyclone rune (given by Sarah in Gregminster's inn, second floor)
SUIKODEN 3: kinda hard i think i tried 3 times? before defeating it well its my own opinion :D try attacking the water crystal to avoid healing? (I THINK?) I already forgot :D
SUIKODEN 4: well kinda hard for me
SUIKODEN 5: lol!! the hardest (FOR ME!) i retried it almost 10 times? hahaha and the worst part didn't complete the 108 stars of destiny :))

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Re: Which Suikoden final boss is the toughest to beat?

Postby AlOnZo » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:53 am

The tree in IV gets my vote. I remember losing the rag a couple times during my attempts. It's the only boss I've gave up on, then came back and beat it a day later.

Just finished a run through of Suikoden 2 and found every single boss easier than i remembered. Think the beast rune only last 3-4 rounds after a barrage of Rune magic and the physical prowness of Georg and Pesmerga.


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