Dawn and Twilight

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:42 pm

yeah your right

I guess we dont have any info then

Night · Post by **Night** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:59 pm

KFCrispy wrote:the old books only say Dawn and Twilight were born when Night severed its link to the Sun Rune

Wait, I did what??

soonket · Post by **soonket** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:21 pm

actually wat i think is... Y is night rune severing its link with sun rune... i mean shouldn't it be moon rune severing its link with the sun rune.... coz moon is opposite with the sun rune... if u get wat i mean.. anyway its just something im wondering n my opinion

Feldoon · Post by **Feldoon** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:48 am

soonket wrote:actually wat i think is... Y is night rune severing its link with sun rune... i mean shouldn't it be moon rune severing its link with the sun rune.... coz moon is opposite with the sun rune... if you get wat i mean.. anyway its just something im wondering n my opinion

Blue Moon Rune exists. Makes people vampires.

They couldn't have a blue moon rune and a moon rune. It's the Night Rune, a.k.a. Star Dragon Sword/Zodiac Sword. End point.

soonket · Post by **soonket** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:46 am

wat i mean is y night rune severing its link instead of blue moon rune...

Night · Post by **Night** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:42 am

soonket wrote:wat i mean is y night rune severing its link instead of blue moon rune...

Because the Night rune is connected to the Sun rune, and personally I think the Sun rune sounds far more appropriate than the 'Day rune.' Anyway, the moon and the sun aren't opposites. The sun is a gargantuan flaming ball of gas, and the moon is basically a glorified asteroid that got caught in the Earth's gravity.

So, the sun brings day, which is the opposite of night. Hence the rune names.

soonket · Post by **soonket** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:28 am

logically the sun is not the opposite of moon but in the folklore they are... if everything in suikoden is view logically then wat could be the explaination of the sun rune controlling the sun ??

Sun rune does sound more appropriate than Day rune as but so is the moon rune as night rune in this case... (In my opinion)

Night · Post by **Night** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:28 pm

soonket wrote:logically the sun is not the opposite of moon but in the folklore they are... if everything in suikoden is view logically then wat could be the explaination of the sun rune controlling the sun ??

Sun rune does sound more appropriate than Day rune as but so is the moon rune as night rune in this case... (In my opinion)

Ah, but the main problem is that the Moon rune has already been introduced as having a different role. So I see your point, but they have to fit it in with the story we have so far in the Suikoden world.

Post by **KFCrispy** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:04 pm

Sun can be a source of light (and life)
Night is the absence of Sun
instead of day/night or sun/moon, we can view it as light and darkness, or "shade" (but not holy/darkness type of darkness that has a religious or undead/supernatural aspect).

the Moon can appear during the daytime--these rare occassions are called eclipses. the moon does not cause "night", it is merely the absence of sunlight.

Leknaat said Zerase is known as the bearer of the stars--i think she refers to the actual stars of the sky rather than the SoD.. as her Star Rune deals with cosmic stuff. (she's a--COSMIC GIRL..)

soonket · Post by **soonket** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:05 am

hmm thanks for answering my questions.. i understand now... n btw does that mean dawn n twilight(can it be refer as dusk rune?) is the same as star rune ?? as three of them r not a true rune n is just an unique rune

Feldoon · Post by **Feldoon** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:17 am

The Dawn and Twilight Runes are different from the Star Rune in the sense that the Dawn and Twilight Runes were made by both the Sun and Night Runes (Dawn and Twilight are the two times where, for a split second, it's neither day or night) when they split.

However the Star Rune is a unique rune born of the Night Rune which is equipped permanently to Zerase (and gives me the opinion that Zerase may be a spawned incarnation of the Night Rune).

So the Dawn, Twilight and Star Runes are similar in that they're all spawned from the Night Rune (some way or another), and they're unique.

eternal_sins · Post by **eternal_sins** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:59 am

How bout saying..

Dawn and Twillight rune are NOT mistaken true rune but a rune
born from a True Rune AND is a Unique. (include Star Rune)

AND,
Dawn and Twillight are time before n after morning or night..
there one more i think...dusk?

SO,It like..

Dawn (night turning to morning0daybreak...)
Morning (where sun exsist..)
Twillight (after sunset/period where showing the end of the day..)
Dusk (time JUST before nightfall)
Night (Night...DUH!)

There you have it..

Post by **Oppenheimer** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:39 pm

Twilight can occur during both dawn and dusk although it's more commonly referred to during dusk.

eternal_sins · Post by **eternal_sins** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:11 pm

Huh?
What you mean..

Wicked_Rune_Bearer · Post by **Wicked_Rune_Bearer** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:10 am

okay if dawn and twilight aren't true runes that means that the prince never had a true rune, that seems akward seeing as how good the game was and he is the tenkai yet never possissing a true rune. And how can a rune that isn't true choose it's host. you would think that since it doesn't have a imbeded deity or whatever is inside a true rune isn't there, then it wouldn't be able to choose a host.