Luc words...

Future Saiyan · Post by **Future Saiyan** » Thu May 04, 2006 1:30 pm

speaking of Luc, when he said to Hugo (or any other Flame Champion) that he reminded him of someone from the past, was Luc referring to Tir or Riou??? or maybe someone else???

Wraith · Post by **Wraith** » Thu May 04, 2006 1:32 pm

Future Saiyan wrote:speaking of Luc, when he said to Hugo (or any other Flame Champion) that he reminded him of someone from the past, was Luc referring to Tir or Riou??? or maybe someone else???

Tir and Riou.

For some reason the eyes have something to do with Tenkais but Hugo isn't a Tenkai.

Futch02 · Post by **Futch02** » Sat May 06, 2006 11:03 pm

Ushiku wrote:I think the only will which is controlled by fate is the will of a True Rune bearer, but even then once the bearer achieves mastery over the True Rune, it is no longer a problem in terms of bending to the will of the True Rune.

The runes are also controlled by fate, aren't they? Hense the gathering of the 108 stars undoes the destiny of the runes, in turn, altering the destiny of the rune bearers.

Forgiver Sign · Post by **Forgiver Sign** » Sun May 07, 2006 6:28 am

Those words really inspire me...

Felenan Prince · Post by **Felenan Prince** » Sun May 07, 2006 8:46 am

There was something said in suikoden 5 that shows that wether or not fate is unchangable.

Ushiku · Post by **Ushiku** » Sun May 07, 2006 2:19 pm

Futch02 wrote:
Ushiku wrote:I think the only will which is controlled by fate is the will of a True Rune bearer, but even then once the bearer achieves mastery over the True Rune, it is no longer a problem in terms of bending to the will of the True Rune.
The runes are also controlled by fate, aren't they? Hense the gathering of the 108 stars undoes the destiny of the runes, in turn, altering the destiny of the rune bearers.

Not all Tenkais are True Rune bearers though, Thomas isn't, the Prince of Falena isn't, and neither is Riou since he has a component of the Rune of Beginning (Bright Sheild) and not the Rune of Beginning itself.

xXSqualleoNXx · Post by **xXSqualleoNXx** » Wed May 10, 2006 10:50 am

Wraith wrote:
Future Saiyan wrote:speaking of Luc, when he said to Hugo (or any other Flame Champion) that he reminded him of someone from the past, was Luc referring to Tir or Riou??? or maybe someone else???
Tir and Riou.

For some reason the eyes have something to do with Tenkais but Hugo isn't a Tenkai.

Actually, he always says it to Hugo, even if he isn't the Flame Champion. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact of being a Tenkai, but rather the fact Hugo, like Tir and Riou, is a young idealistic youth, just like the previous Tenkai stars. Actually, if we are to see it this way, Hugo should have been the Tenkai star.

ShardStar · Post by **ShardStar** » Wed May 10, 2006 11:50 am

Yeah but isn't Thomas an idealistic youth himself? Doesn't he dream of making Budahec castle a thriving center of commerce and peace between the Grassland people?

Dura Sinai · Post by **Dura Sinai** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:55 pm

ShardStar wrote:Yeah but isn't Thomas an idealistic youth himself? Doesn't he dream of making Budahec castle a thriving center of commerce and peace between the Grassland people?

Yep but in this case, Luc doesn't really encounter Thomas. He was on pposing side unlike the previous two wars and there is only one scene where the two can possibly interact at all which is an optional scene if you let him and Cecile tag along to retreive teh Earth rune. And that mostly involves repeated attacks.

Felenan Prince · Post by **Felenan Prince** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:30 am

I have a question can one man change fate? Or is the 108 stars always needed to change fate?