human turns to... [spoilers]

kelvingarinkz · Post by **kelvingarinkz** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:14 pm

i remember Kyril says " Eh, I didn't turn into a fishman ? " or something like that when he first enters the World of Emptiness ... or whatever it is called during the ending of Rhapsodia
that means everyone, including Kyril and Yohn who enters that world, will be turned into fishmen right ?

so the people throught the game which are turned into fishmen did visit Yohn's world right .... how do they get back ? and why do they get back to the real world instead of staying there ?
and how can the process of visiting and leaving the world happens so swiftly by seeing how fast they change from human form to fishmen form ?

Edit: Moved to the proper section. -p

HolyPaladin · Post by **HolyPaladin** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:18 am

You have to put all Suikoden Tactics plot questions in Rhapsodia Plot Forum. This one definately needs to be put in the forum because it contains Suikoden Tactics ending spoilers.

Raftrider · Post by **Raftrider** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:04 am

I believe Kyril stated that in regards to jumping into a reacting Rune Cannon.

Post by **thcrock** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:51 am

The people who you see throughout the game as fishmen were likely 'converted' so by a rune cannon, just like Walter was. I'd imagine they were brought into, and back out of, the World of Emptiness, in the same manner as Walter. Just a temporary area of the World of Emptiness is created, and those humans that are in it transform into fishmen. Then the area recedes, and they are the real world as fishmen.

MatildaWhiteKnightLeader · Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:28 am

Does this "World of Emptiness" have anything to do with the Empty World spell of the Pale gate rune (lvl 4)?

HolyPaladin · Post by **HolyPaladin** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:53 am

MatildaWhiteKnightLeader wrote:Does this "World of Emptiness" have anything to do with the Empty World spell of the Pale gate rune (lvl 4)?

It should. The Blue/Pale Gate and Back and Front Gate Runes both summon from the "World of Emptiness" if I remember correctly.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:32 am

Yes, those monsters are confirmed to be summoned from the World of Emptiness.

LadyChris · Post by **LadyChris** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:49 am

IDEA

lol, maybe he ghost ship thing that is summoned by that rune is the ghostship from suikoden 4!

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:59 am

and just because I LOVE mentioning this..

yuber is from the world of emptyness!! so yes people! we have been to yubers home dimension!

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:09 pm

Are you joking, or what? I've never heard this, at least not as more than speculation.

son_michael · Post by **son_michael** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:33 pm

I thought it was a fact yuber was from the world of emptiness...its not?

well if its not then I guess we can say weve been to the world of emptiness where yuber summons all of his monsters from

so its still cool either way

Buff · Post by **Buff** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:55 pm

we just know that yuber is from the unknown world but don't know exactly which one cause there could be more than one.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:57 pm

We don't really know anything about Yuber's origins.

Buff · Post by **Buff** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:29 pm

would be nice if they give us some info on who actually summoned him or how he got his rune.

MatildaWhiteKnightLeader · Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:12 pm

actually if the monsters summoned by Luc are from the empty world, then Yuber was summoned from there i think. I forgot what the 108 ending note was on Yuber in suikoden 3, but I vaguely remeber it said he appeared with those monsters from the empty world again.