Alma Kinan

Anamanaguchi · Post by **Anamanaguchi** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:34 am

I am playing through Suikoden III again.. and I realize since there are no men in that village, and the women of Alma Kinan have not left the village for years.. How are there even little kids in that village? Did they do rituals and ask the spirits form them? I was and still am confused, I thought they could have even been a village of lesbians. I don't know.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:41 am

At the moment, nobody knows. A lot of things have been hypothesied, but nothing's been officiated by Konami.

Anamanaguchi · Post by **Anamanaguchi** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:29 am

I hear the manga has a lot more to it.. maybe it will be cleared up in that?

Hikusaak The Great · Post by **Hikusaak The Great** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:11 am

Maybe they kidnapped men to... reproduce?
If the offspring is men, then it will be passed away, which means only female children are accepted.

jonathan_priest · Post by **jonathan_priest** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:28 am

Somehow I don't think they'd kidnap men...I mean, Rody was in the village, as was Nash and Fred and neither had any attempts to be kidnapped for procreation.

IMO, I think it deals more with rituals and ceremonies. Perhaps they do rituals to offer the spirit of a deceased Alma Kinen and then that spirit is reincarnated into a child or perhaps a pregnancy. They do have children in the village...so they must come from somewhere. But imagine how knowledable that person would be if they were reincarnated with their old memories. Well...probably not too knowledgable since they hardly ever leave the village.

Post by **Vextor** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:35 am

Or they can all be female orphans. That doesn't explain how all of them have black hair and nay single one of them have non-black hair.

sarady · Post by **sarady** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:01 pm

Or they could be pod people that spring from the trees surrounding their mysterious village...

But really, the Alma Kinan clan sort of reminded me of mythical Avalon in its purely female population and spiritual purpose. Konami didn't take the time to give us the complete story surrounding Alma Kinan's reproductive situation. However, this doesn't mean that the village is just filled to the brim with lesbians who have enchanted pregnancies, etc. They most likely--unless a stork delivers the kids--have children the old fashioned way. (Not to say there are no lesbian relationships at all, because every culture contains such relationships.)

It's shown that travelers can enter AK if their intentions are honorable or if the shamans there allow them to enter. (I can't remember if the intentions actually factor in it all. That might be a detail from another story.) So it's not unbelievable that some of the women there have their own children. The idea of sending male children out to other settlements is viable. Such fostering/adoptions existed all the time in many cultures throughout the world. My guess is that they would send the males to Chisha and outlying villages within the Grasslands. Also, the AK's couldhave sent males to the Safir clan before its destruction by Harmonia. But that's just my competely unfounded theory.

Wraith · Post by **Wraith** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:15 pm

Maybe not all of them are Female...
eh...
eh...

Just kidding

Morty · Post by **Morty** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:04 pm

Speaking of the gender issue in S3, I don't remember any FEMALES in the Lizard or Duck clan.

Jowy Atreides · Post by **Jowy Atreides** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:27 pm

Well, we don't know how the females differ from the males, so we can't really say if there's any females or not.

Arke · Post by **Arke** » Tue May 03, 2005 6:10 pm

actually, i read a book in the 7th grade called "The Giver". In that book there was a job for women where all they did was have sex and give birth. Well maybe in Alma Kinan they have a few men hidden , whose job it is to have sex.

.......or maybe Estella wasn't lying about gordius village

Blue Thunder · Post by **Blue Thunder** » Wed May 04, 2005 12:57 pm

I read "The Giver" too, it's a good book.

This is probably one of those things that Konami will never explain. They want to keep plenty of things mysterious (AKA unexplained). I don't know why. It drives Suikoden fans nuts. We want to know, and this isn't anything that will ever get explained in later games since we'll likely never return to the Grasslands.

Ginzo · Post by **Ginzo** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:06 pm

Arke wrote: .......or maybe Estella wasn't lying about gordius village

That's probably the only reasonable way for the Alma Kinan Clan to have children. Personally I'd rather go with that than to be expanding my original narrow mind and think of "non-straight" relationships as a way to have children.

Besides, it's much more better for Konami to have some mysteries for the Suikoden series. Further more, you can always find "interesting" topics like this one in the forum.

Moonbay · Post by **Moonbay** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:08 pm

Wasn't there a line that men were invited to certain rituals? I can't remember.....

Hero Kev · Post by **Hero Kev** » Sat May 28, 2005 9:37 pm

maybe there was a sacred fertile well or river that has the ability to make women pregnant n give birth after drinking it.Lesbians doesnt seems possible as just becoz they are les doesnt mean they can reproduce right.i got the idea from a tv show on the China classics "journey to the west".there was a kingdom during their journey that was called women kingdom who had only women and they were able to reproduce becoz of the fertile well.

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